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  1. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    God. Supreme Being. Synonyms. What is your problem? You obviously do not want to discuss the merit of your proposition. You just want its assertion to be summarily accepted. You could not even admit that Revelations 1:1 indicates the resurrected Jesus received a revelation from God, which is...
  2. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Trinitarianism is the bigggest idol in Christianity. It's so big, I added another g to big! :-)
  3. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Right. The name of God is LORD - not I am.
  4. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    I don't think they equal. In the beginning of WHAT was the Word? In the beginning of Jesus' ministry. This is a different beginning from Creation.
  5. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Hmmm. I watched a video that pointed out Revelations with many thrones. Whoever is sitting on God's throne has the authority of God - even though they are not God. Cool, huh?
  6. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    I understand your point but I was not giving the definition of Strawman, just identifying its use. If you re-read his post, he was telling me what my argument needs to be. That is, creating the Straw man as it eliminates stronger arguments one might be able to make. I've found that in practice...
  7. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Once again, you are asserting through mysticism trinitarianism is spiritually valid.
  8. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Not an answer to the question.
  9. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Appeal to intimidation. What verse says if you do not believe in the trinity, you cannot be saved and will go to hell?
  10. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    This is NOT what Hebrews says. In modern parlance, it is my throne, which you will sit in forever. I swear, the deliberate misinterpreting Scripture to support an inherently contradictory doctrine knows no bounds.
  11. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Ha! We are on the same page there! BTW, I was not comparing Joe to God but language usage. Paris of Troy in the Iliad is not the same as Troy of Paris. No son is the father. God is synonymous with the Father. ‘For us, there is on God, the Father.’ What do you make of this verse? The Bible...
  12. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    On the contrary, subordination does disqualify one as being the Supreme Being, by definition.
  13. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Appeal to Majority. In revelations, John bows down to an angel. Just because he thought that does not make the angel God, right?
  14. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    It's no argument at all! How in the world are you connecting in your mind shining across from East to West means he is God? We agree Jesus is the Son of God. It is God who said he'd make his enemies a footstool for his son not Angels. But the son of God is not God anymore than the son of Joe...
  15. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    One possible explanation among others. Many people say "I am" but are not declaring themselves to be God. Jesus said a few passages earlier in John 8:54 that if he were to glorify himself it would meaning nothing. Here you are saying Jesus statement means everything, glorifying himself in the...
  16. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    No. It's just that a valid interpretation of the verse undermines your doctrine. Revealing how personal you are taking textual criticism. The Good News is not that Jesus was God incarnate. The Good News is that the man Jesus having been resurrected into a glorified body is our proof of God's...
  17. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Oy vey. Again, you are not connecting the dots to the conclusion you want to support. Again, you quote another verse, skipping from one to another as if hoping something sticks. Other men have glory. Angels are described as having glory. I agree that Jesus has glory - like all God's creation...
  18. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Well, I for one, liked your formatting. :-)
  19. Wrangler

    Do you accept this a Biblical fact or fiction?:

    Axiomatic of mysticism. In your estimation, do contradictions exist in reality?
  20. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Appeal to Diversion. I see that you completely abandon the field of your previous 'argument.' Now you reference an entirely different verse and again presume that your position is the default that must be proven against while you have no burden at all to prove your claims. Matthew 16:27...