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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL! No, it does not. That is utter lunacy and complete nonsense of epic proportions. It very clearly indicates that the third woe (seventh trumpet) doesn't occur until after the first two woes (fifth and sixth trumpets) have finished. Revelation 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lords 2 anointed witnesses

    Good grief. You couldn't be further from the truth about this if you tried. The two witnesses are obviously doing God's will. Do you not know that God commanded His people to kill His enemies on multiple occasions in the Old Testament times? If God wants to use His people to do His bidding, what...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord Is Not Slow In keeping His Promise, As Some Understand Slowness. Instead He Is Patient With You, Not Wanting Anyone To Perish,

    Yep. And He's not being slow about it like the scoffers Peter referenced think. And the reason is that He is very patient and loving and He doesn't want anyone to perish and be condemned to the second death, but instead wants everyone to repent so that they can have eternal life. He's willing to...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Why don't you try using the Bible to show how and why you believe what you do? Can you do that? You haven't ever done it before, but you can start now. And how do you interpret this exactly? Is it just too much trouble to ask you to actually show exactly how and why you interpret scripture the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The mark of the Man/beast

    Someone is too cowardly to talk to me directly even though he is responding to me. Good luck with inheriting the kingdom of God by your own self-righteousness, which is as filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6). You have deceived yourself. Please try to locate these verses in your Bible since they seem to...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lords 2 anointed witnesses

    Are you trying to say that you think the two witnesses "shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb"?
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    It's clearly talking about both restoring and building Jerusalem, so I can't take this seriously. Sorry. I'm okay with agreeing to disagree on this since our views are far apart on it.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord Is Not Slow In keeping His Promise, As Some Understand Slowness. Instead He Is Patient With You, Not Wanting Anyone To Perish,

    Good verse. Any particular reason why you posted it? I'll give a couple thoughts on it. What promise is that verse talking about? This one: 2 Peter 3:3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The mark of the Man/beast

    You quote Romans 6:22, but have no understanding of Romans 6:23. We have been made free from the wages of sin, which is eternal death (the second death) in contrast to the gift of God, which is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    How exactly was heavenly Jerusalem restored in 49 days? How exactly was heavenly Jerusalem bulit in 434 days? Did you read post #220. It's an excellent explanation for how the prophecy refers to 70 weeks of years. I asked you to tell me your understanding of the part about the destruction of...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The mark of the Man/beast

    Christ has made us free from the wages of sin, which is the second death (Romans 6:23, Rev 20:15). You have no understanding of that. You put yourself under the curse of the law with your false salvation by your own works and righteousness doctrine (Gal 3:10-11).
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    For it to be restored implies that it needed to be rebuilt. There is no indication in the prophecy at all that it's talking about heavenly Jerusalem. When it talks about destroying the city and the sanctuary in Daniel 9:26, what is your understanding of that? If you think the prophecy is about...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    LOL. What? Yes, it is. Paul clearly did that in Ephesians 2:4-6. Do you not think that when we are saved we go from being spiritually dead in our sins to spiritually alive in Christ? Do you deny ever being dead in your sins? How do you interpret this passage: John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    No, it isn't. Read post #220 which reconciles it very well. Oops. You forgot something. It says he would cause the sacrifices to cease in the middle of the 70th week, not at the end as you are saying. His death falls in the middle of the 70th week, not at the end of it. Also, your view does...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The mark of the Man/beast

    Yes, it's sad to see. Imagine the pressure he has put himself under to be perfect. It's all so unnecessary. There's no room for salvation by grace through faith in his doctrine. He has not experienced the freedom we have in Christ. Not the freedom to just sin all we want, of course, but the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I can't understand what you're trying to say, so I don't think I'm too interested in continuing this discussion much longer. You are too hard to follow. I know this can't actually be the case, but you're coming across here as if you are accusing Gabriel of gross error since he is the one who...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL! The way you twist and contort scripture is truly unbelievable! You butcher scripture beyond recognition on a regular basis. No, it does NOT signal "the time, times, half time that Satan will have left, as he will be cast down to earth.". You are again making scripture say what you want it...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL!!! You thinking that you can explain anything to me is a joke. You, who ludicrously thinks the seventh trumpet sounds before the fifth and sixth trumpets. You, who believes the duration of "this generation" in Matthew 24:34 refers to the human life span. You, who thinks God will resurrect...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Taking a literal, futuristic and chronological approach to interpreting the book of Revelation is the worst possible approach to interpreting the book, but that is exactly what pretribs do. You can't possibly have any understanding of the book by taking that approach to interpreting it. The book...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, it does not. It reveals that there will be silence in heaven for a half hour after it's opened. That's it. You are once again trying to make scripture say what you want it to say. Douggg, the seventh trumpet signals "the time of the dead, that they should be judged" (Rev 11:18). When are...