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You are exactly right....people thinking of coming to church have to take a double take....do we really want to become that? What would Sunday school be like for kids at that church?

Acts 22:12-16 “A certain Ananias, a man who was devout by the standard of the Law, and well spoken of by all the Jews who lived there, came to me, and standing near said to me, ‘Brother Saul, receive your sight!’ And at that very time I looked up at him. And he said, ‘The God of our fathers has...

Baptism is Necessary for salvation Irenaeus (120?-200), “'And dipped himself,' says [the Scripture], 'seven times in Jordan.' It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but it served as an indication to us. For as we are lepers...

Tertullian on without Baptism there is no salvation When, however, the prescript is laid down that without baptism, salvation is attainable by none (chiefly on the ground of that declaration of the Lord, who says, Unless one be born of water, he has not life ), there arise immediately...

The necessity of water Baptism for salvation is attested to by the Early Church Fathers and Scripture. The early Christians and ECF’s (Early Church Fathers) were big on water baptism even though the method could very. In winter you could substitute the river with pouring water over someone’s...

You seem to be saying that both water baptism and communion have power, but it is not something we should expect to understand, yes? We can pretty much be for sure we can not understand the spiritual realm....the total understanding of God. The simplest of things like the power and authority of...

You said...I see them both as outward rituals intended to serve as reminders of deep spiritual truths. As such, they hold no power in and of themselves if the spiritual principles they're designed to reflect do not become realities in a believer's life. That is fine...here is the deal...freedom...

I guess you know I am not Catholic. When it comes to salvation we are trying to understand the process...the effects...the result. Because we do not understand all that is Christ and heaven, that does not mean the answer is to deny the process...Tap Christ on the shoulder and a ask Him...then...

Well the discussions of Baptism and communion....salvation in general, has ripped the church apart over the centuries. So it will continue and scriptures really do not win the discussion...No matter what Christ said...no matter what Paul said...no matter how much it is repeated...let me show...

Hawaii Hawaiian Christmas dinner is typically a luau, celebrated on Christmas Eve. Kalua pig: The word, “kalua” is actually a traditional Hawaiian cooking method that utilizes an imu, a type of underground oven. You can cook any type of meat in the imu, but most popular is pork. Since cooking...

Christmas Dinners around the world Denmark Danish Christmas dinner In Denmark, the traditional Christmas meal is served on 24th of December the main course varies and as in America sometimes have two main meat courses. Roast duck (66%), roast pork (43%), turkey (8%), goose (7%). The meat is...

So far the concept of liquid is liquid has worked for me....lots of liguid....4 or 5 cans of Coke a month.

I do like fresh spring water....had some about five years ago.

Oh of course I saw the movie. Very good.

I am assuming you guys are talking to me....coffee.... I do not like water....but drink all the time....coffee, tea, milk, juice, etc....but not much water. Healthy old ox. Burgess Meredith...movie....Grumpier Old Men.. He talks about it...something like Those flat bellied-Green loving doctors...

Thanks for that. I knew you would bring in an insightful perspective.

Sorry post #93 husband of one wife....christian debate forum

Thank you for clarifying.

That is all cool. I track historical patterns and it lines up and explains a lot. Really....I am torturing you or killing you because of my love for your soul. It is throughout Christian history.

Thanks, but am I understanding you, that you do not believe in new revelations?