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Are you saying the backslider is still saved?

The physical handling of actual snakes or drinking poison would be a sin of presumption. But haven't you ever found that you were supernaturally saved from an accident or some other misfortune? For me, I know that God gave me this house, so it is His house, and when we have tornado warnings and...

That was hysterical. And I understood most of it. Of course, my mum was from down under!

Just testing? You mean you knew I was the OP? That lie just put you on ignore. I can't stand liars. So you have nothing to read of any worth to me. Good bye. 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in...

Because it wasn't Adam's genealogy, but Noah's.

Just because I didn't comment on it, doesn't mean I didn't read it. It just wasn't what was important.

My point is, why is that important to you whether they were born in the Garden or not? For me if they were born in the Garden and had not sinned, why were they cast out. Why not just their parents? They could have been raised by angels.

You are only 32 and already jaded? Then stay posting and responding. It takes more talent to get your truth across when they aren't right in front of you.

So then why do you believe that?

Don't let yourself become jaded, because then you may find yourself sinning against someone, when you are upset with someone else. Remember Matthew 6:14-15. I have to keep reminding myself of that verse too. I hate stupidity, and especially stubbornness when you've proved your point. I believe...

And people make innocent mistakes too.

I agree. Adam and Eve were driven out of the Garden of Eden in chapter 3 before Cain and Abel were born in chapter 4. Do you see something that says otherwise?

Not the prophet Enoch who came out of the line of Seth.

Hey, Mr. Observant! I see your spirit hasn't improved. I am the OP, so I do know what this post is about. It is about people believing the opposite of what is plainly written in these scriptures. I shouldn't have to explain what is self-explanatory. And many people have never even heard of...

So what? Present tense and personal is just a teaching tool. If you have really examined the context, which you haven't, look at verse 9 in Romans 7. It is present tense and personal, but would make Paul over 1300 years old, and was even there before Moses received the law! And everything Paul...

Me too.

That would make the earth 8000 years old. I believe your first amount of time between Adam and Abraham was 2000 years less than your 4000 years, making the earth 6000 years old. How did you come up with 4000 years?

Then you do not believe that Adam and his genealogy was the first man.

This is from Paul's second letter to the Corinthians. 10 For the sadness that is used by God brings a change of heart that leads to salvation—and there is no regret in that! So were the Corinthians saved in his first letter when he said: 4 I thank my God always concerning you for the grace of...

Seeing as this is totally unscriptural, but others also believe this, this belief has a man-made source or denomination.