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@GodsGrace Oh I was responding to the bit where you said: Maybe I wasn't so clear. What I meant was, when you see "almost every young girl I know has some sort of tatoo. Even those very conservative types", it doesn't surprise you any more, does it? It really is what they do now.

@Pearl Hmm....sounds like some ppl have real problems... :rolleyes:

As if what's on the skin can remove what's on the heart, right?

@Rita Sounds like you do still have quite a lot of restrictions still. Yes, you're right; there is a difference between naturist and topless. On the Continent of Europe for decades now there has been topless; the idea of getting an even tan is so widespread that it doesn't even seem to be...

@Pearl Just shows how important daily prayer is... :)

Medieval clergy went by the Vulgate and tradition; Genesis 3.15 in the KJV goes by the Hebrew.

Blue...

@Waiting on him Yes, people have it done so widely and so confidently now, especially younger women. It's so self-evidently the case. (No longer exclusively a man thing.)

Important verse...

@soul man Shows just how the Word really needs to be the reference point, rather than mere religious tradition.

@GodsGrace I take your point! just goes to show the power of fervent prayer, though; a case of, Watch out: God might just give you what you fervently pray for...:)

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This is the verse I was thinking about; it's a good guide to local church activities.

@GodsGrace Well, yes, exactly. It's what they do. You're right. It's something that conservative and traditional people can do with confidence; it's what many of them them do. So I'm sure it doesn't surprise you any more when you see them with it, right? And I guess this is why this thread's...

@VictoryinJesus Yes, spiritually minded discernment from a prayer and Bible reading habit is such a costly and valuable matter.

@Waiting on him Hebrews contains a lot of warnings not to go back to the form of Old Testament religion without acknowledging the superiority of Christ in all things.

Offerings - however generous - are the New Testament pattern; tithes are an Old Testament matter. I think you also made the analogy of taxes; in a sense, in Israel's theocracy tithes were the taxes.

I can see your logic there.

I was just commenting in general terms; I think there are a lot of parlors there. A guy who posts here said a while ago that while he was going to be there for a family wedding, some of his family might be getting ink from one of the parlors there; there's certainly a choice of them.

Praying....