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smh I give up. I can tell you 2+2 = 4 a million times, if you do not believe it you never will

I think you admire yourself, so much you can’t see your own flaws.

So your going to tell me that a belief I have held for over 40 years is not what I think. I mean really my friend that’s quite arrogant, eternal life and eternal security was around long before calvin, calvin spoke of perseverance of the saints, it was not even osas. I do not believe he ever...

With all do respect this can’t be true if you trust someone, by practice you will do what they say, if you really trust them you will by reaction tend to want to be like the, it’s not an emotional response, faith equals assurance or confidence. Action is not part of the definition, the...

I am playing a game with a kid, his name is Charlie24. He attacks anyone who disagrees with them and cuts them down. So I treat him as he treats others, I guess Charlie does not like it. Like most kids

Yet your reasoning against what john Said and making the so called scripture you post co trading John yet it’s me who has a humility problem :rolleyes:

So you do not think you ha e a pride issue? I am prety sure I can be prideful, that’s why I do not declair myself to be sinless. one thing I do not, I will admit it, will you?

One who no longer believes is an antichrist john Said they were never of us,, Trust John, not human reasoning,

Yes real faith has action action is not faith it is the result of faith your trying to proclaim the result is the item itself, that’s false,,

One thing you should do is become more humble..

Yes, and that’s not it, when we do this we not only get eternal life, we get ever spiritual blessing in Christ, we get the pledge of the spirit, we have been redeemed, purchased with a price, justified, sanctified, perfected in him, the power to become sons of God, adopted as dear children...

If you have to keep it, it’s not eternal what part of that is so hard for you to grasp? if we are told we have it, then it must be eternal, if it can be lost. It’s not eternal. That’s reality. Jesus said in John 6 we will never die. If for any reason, after we achieve this date, we can...

For by grace we have been saved THROUGH faith. faith is not what saved it, it is Gods grace, Faith is what gave us the assurance to say yes to Gods offer. And not continue in unbelief, as John. Said, those who do not believe are condemned already. They did not go from a condemned state' to...

You know, I can be a patient person, it if you continue to try to tell me what I believe after nine er ous times of telling you this is not true and that true OSAS teaching does not teach this, I will put you on ignore The difference believe osas and anti osas is that osas teach a believer...

Again you need to study the banking system, and what a pledge means, the pledge is in effect until ressurection day, there are no prerequisites in any of the three passages paul wrote about this pledge Either way, if your right. then our salvation is based on our ability and our power and not...

No it is not, if anything mere belief is an emotional response, but it has no power. we are not saved by emotions Our emotions are the least trustworthy thing we have,

They why would you deny eternal life and preach conditional life!

It’s faith faith in the Greek is to have assurance, to be assured, to ha e confidence if you have no assurance in Christ, you have no faith,

When you make a down payment, you are promising to make the total payment in full, it’s called a pledge, I make this payment as a pledge that I will pay the rest when the payment is due if I do not pay, I have forfeited my own payment, and I not only lose what I purchased but I lose what I...

I believe this also