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Are you saying that there is no change in us on earth, bur just in heaven? I believe there is a dramatic change as our nature is born again and we are now a partaker of the nature of Christ. I agree that our spirit goes to heaven while our body decays. I agree. I didn't quite understand your...

Come, and let us return to the Lord; That IS repentance. For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up. 2 After two days He will revive us; On the third day He will raise us up, That we may live in His sight. It is clear as day to me. It doesn't say He was...

Yes, but do you believe we will be unconscious in the grave, or immediately in heaven while the rest of us who remain will be on earth?

You are trying to separate the Church in two. One Gentile, and one Jewish. There is only one church and it started with the Jews. Gentiles were grafted in UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, and THEN all the national Jews will come into the Church and be saved.

Sort of. But it is not Jesus that needs to repent. The Jews have been partially blinded and scattered to all the nations for 2000 years. Then all Israel will be saved, and the Millennium with the Messiah is 1000 years.

I always think of this by Paul regarding physical death. Philippians 1: 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to...

Were the Israelites taken out of Egypt before the plagues? Or were they supernaturally protected? It is a paradigm of the Great Tribulation.

No, post-trib. The wrath comes after the second coming. The rapture comes at the second coming.

@marks I added to my last post.

Chapter 14 is the second coming after the GT, and 15 then is the wrath of God poured out. The Great Tribulation is NOT the wrath of God as taught by pre-tribber pastors. As all tribulation it purifies those who I like to say are lukewarm and on the fence. Notice in chapter 7 that they wash their...

Hosea 6:1-3

When a Christian dies their spirit goes straight to heaven. Do you believe that?

In Revelation 6 in the 5th seal (the first seal is the Antichrist) are the martyrs, and I believe those are the ones who come out of the Great Tribulation in Revelation 7. 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for...

Do you know of a passage in the old testament minor prophets that can be interpreted as 1000 years living in His sight? The Millennium?

I'm not massaging anything. Just using recorded Jewish history.

And what prophecy are you needing those dates for?

What date was Solomon's temple dedicated?

According to these previous posts, you I say one thing, and you misquote me and use dates out of thin air.

What scripture are you basing the start date of 2300 years?

Based on what data?