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Jesus is not God and certainly not the Creator. The Bible NEVER says either of these things about Jesus. If it did, you would not quote GE 1:, wchih does not even mention Jesus.

@charity, thank you. One condition is not unconditional. Why is this so hard for some? :(I use the word faith, which my pastor taught = BELIEF + ACTION, to comply with Matthew 7:21. But I don't mean to quibble)

My SIL is a recovering JW. His hypocritical parents, not only see him regularly, they are going to 'watch an Elvis impersonator' on the Lake, where the fire works disply happens to be. For those who are unaware, JW do not celebrate birthdays, including the birth of our country,

Every first born is the only child until others come along. The Bible says we are all children of God. This means while Jesus WAS the only son of God, he is not anymore. Jesus remains the only man God resurrected into a glorified body.

Right, a condition that all do not meet. It is accurate to say Jesus OFFERS salvation to all. It is inaccurate to say Jesus saves all, period. There are terms and conditions that most do not meet.

Friend, you need to understand Definition, Logic and Language Usage. Son's come after and from their father's. The Father alone is God alone. The Bible says this over and over and over again.

Facts are facts. You can believe them or not. Your belief does not change the facts. 4 men in the Bible were worshipped. Not a one of them are God.

Great point! A mirror reflects also but a mirror is not what it reflects. Reflect and "in the form of" are related in that way. One only uses the expression that a thing is "in the form of" when it is made to look like something it is not. Otherwise, one would simply say X is a thing. A toy...

So many sentences in the Bible are written in the form of Abbot is X and Costello is Y, clearly indicating they are different beings. From this week's devotional reading from Acts 20 CJB; v21: turn from sin to God; and put your trust in our Lord, Yeshua the Messiah. v28 to shepherd God’s...

So, once I specify, which Bible, then you will concede Jesus is not God?

That is where you are trying to be clever. The pivot point is worship, not deification of a man. Fact is, the Bible clearly states David was worshipped. It is your doctrine that pretends only a god can be worshipped. I offered 4 places where that is not true.

So, your ridiculous theory is people do not offer humble submission and respect. (as to a diety); that worship and Obeisance are not aligned even when stated in the Bible?

Indeed. Sin is not logical and rejecting God due to one’s ego, thinking one a god is the Original Sin.

I am right. The ‘only’ is the dead give away to your contradictory statements. I certainly agree that EXCEPT FOR ALL THE EXCEPTIONS, THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. But if you examine it, you will realize it is just a complicated way to say there are exceptions while appearing to say the opposite.

You are confusing HOW David was worshipped with THAT he was worshipped. How did the worshipper demonstrate their worship? Through obeisance. Fact is, David was worshipped as were 3 other men in the Bible. Call it what you want. A rose by any other name .... Many trinitarian translations alter...

I too forget what thread I'm on a lot. Thanks for the reminder.

Understood. St Augustine disagrees. I’ve been told my view is about the application of the verse. St Augustine said the author of all truth can use the words for authors - guided by the HS - the human author never intended for future generations to divine truth. Again, I’ve experienced the...

Agreed. However, over time the meaning can become more generalized but not contradictory. For instance, the expression ‘blowing smoke up your’ butt has literal origins in the 18th century when the public became doubtful of a certain medical procedure’s efficacy to treat stomach ailments. On...

No way! It has to be obvious to the casual observer of our exchanges this is a final, desperate bid to support a false doctrine. Telling the Hebrews what their Millenia old sacred writings mean is in bad form. The text is monotheistic and the language must be interpreted along those lines...

Strawman. The question is there a verse translated into English that calls Jesus LORD?