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That what NON BELIEVERS do, and it WHY NON BELIeVERS do not have Christ or the father Its not just false teachers, there are some false teachers who claim they do believe in Christ, they just have no faith in him (see James 2), that’s where your wrong

No, it is not what I was taught, It is what John said, in the passages you give, John speaks of antichrists in the passage you keep skipping, he tells us who those antichrists are, and what god says about them you skip those verses because your belief does not match. I can’t do that oh, and...

you skipped vs 22 and 23, don’t give some doctrinal viewpoint, give me fact, leaving those two passages out and trying to spin gnostic this or that does not help you case they (those who deny Christ) were not truly of us, at any time, they were impostors, people who claimed to have faith, but...

Actually the verb tense is imperfect. It is an action that was in the past and continues today. Literally it says they were not of us and they still are not of us. (They never were). If they were of us (in the past and continuing to today) they would have stayed. your wrong on all accounts my...

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us. it says they denied Christ, and it says they were not of us, that if they were truly of us they...

Ma’am, you are a deciever you never own up when you do anything, you love to blame shift, please do not respond to me anymore, I have no desire to play your childish games

you know I am about sick of your childish games, go live in your lie, I could care less

Actually it does tell us who they are. 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. these are not just false teachers...

I believe only God knows who will repent. But he wants all. That’s why he sent us. Amen even until the end of there day

Actually, they explain how to keep them, Sum up would not be a proper fit, if I love my neighbor, I will not covet if I love my spouse I will not commit adultery if I love my parents I will honor them. It’s when our love turns to self in pride, we fall into sin, and that sin will eventually...

Who said I was better? Maybe you should try not to assume things

Yet by the mere fact of you claiming you were chosen and your neighbor not being chosen, You are declaring yourself to be special. Whether you agree with this summation of what you believe is beside the point You may have discussed it. But your discussion did not explain in a detail that...

No my Bible makes it clear he who believes shall never perish It is the will of the father whoever sees and believes shall have eternal life whoever calls on the name of the lord will be saved your stuck on one passage and trying to force it into the rest of the passages, that does not work...

then like I said you are unreachable, and will not find many people who are open to you, about the best you will find is those who agree with you. sadly this thread just made it worse for you because your true pride and hypocrisy is there for all to see. believe me, a lot of what you say does...

But if your wrong your leading people to hell with you, and turning people away from the faith yourself, it goes both ways my friend your right and from what I have seen you post, your scripture contrade contradicts itself, so instead of getting angry, why do you not humble yourself and...

it is Gods will that whoever calls out, whoever believes whoever allows him in, whoever recieved him, is predestined to be his child your right it is based on Gods will, Gods will is that we chose to say yes, vs choosing to say no

I have to laugh at the though people think it ,just be predestination or free will and it can’t be both, predestination is in the word, it’s real, for someone to say it is not real is just wrong but free will is there also, whoever calls, whoever answers, whoever believes. it’s all over...

That’s not true, because you have been given much scripture, and you have yet to change your POV.

In the same token, you have not shown any scripture that proves some of us who disagree with you wrong or given us any reason to change our view. your pride is to deep my friend, you need to stop preaching repenting and repent yourself

right here is your problem my friend you think you are right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong, you focus to much on self, and your showing you are not willing to lear. if I disagree with you, it does not mean I am attacking you, it just means I see things different than you, we...