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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Yes And if you remember, I also said that that interpretation of that passage is not correct. That peter did not say those words. So as you can see. Since you did not seem to want to discuss what I mean by this. we are at a crossroads. And your right, Nothing has been achieved, You still are...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Yep But no one, and I mean no one, was saved because of that water baptism. no more than anyone was saved because they were circumcized in the OT Water baptism, like circumcision is a symbol of what God literally does for us the moment we have faith
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Many have tried to tell him this. That's why I no longer respond to him.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Sadly Satan has perverted the gospel for the church just like he did with the jews and people fell for it. Thats why he is called the master of deception.
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    My assurance in salvation is based on God and his trustworthyness, His character, and his power. Not in my work. To many people have confindence in their works. And they will stand in front of Jesus and proclaim those works and jesus sadly will say depart for he never knew them/ Because they...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Where is water baptism?
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Does God need me to make a confession of faith to know my faith is real? even so, Do I need to be water baptized to tell someone I received Christ?
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    You are right up until your last statment. That statement makes our salvation based on works. Not on Gods mercy God does not need me to make a statement of faith. He knows my heart. That is how he knows if my faith is real. God told me to do many things Assemble together Study to shew myself...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Yes. But he can not enter you until you are first washed. Your washing or redemption is based on the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The baptism and anointing are two different acts of God Yes. But this is not accomplished in water baptism, It is accomplished with spirit baptism. or the washing of...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Repentance is the first step. Those who repent recieve the gift of the spirit. Because they have been washed byu the HS (HS baptism) Water baptism follows this. if you get water baptized before you are spirit baptized. You get wet. but are still dead in your sin.
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    oh I want to know what Peter said, What what any english translation said. don't you?
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    thats not what he greek says. That is what I have been saying In this passage. The gift of the spirit is recieved because of repentance. We are baptized because we recieve remission not in order to recieve it. Baptism of the spirit happens at the moment of faith.
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    who? Even the origional King Jimmy sort of Got it right. Repent YE and let every one of YOU Ye is plural. You is singular. He did not tell everyone to be baptized. He only told select induviduals. This fits with the greek. New engish does not support this
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    it comes before baptism in the spirit?
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    Ok forgive me I misunderstood you
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    The way it is written in English makes it appear Peter is saying to repent and be baptized to recieve the gift of the spirit and remmision of sin, which is not what he said
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    This is when the lame man at the temple was healed and the people gathered around in amazement. Peter began to preach to them. This has nothing to do with baptizing new converts. Where do you get this stuff from? The times of refreshing is referring to refreshing coming from the presence of...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    There is a better way let God baptize you in the spirit, then find water that you may be baptized. In obedience to Gods command there is one faith, one baptism, John indeed baptized with water, but he will baptized with the Holy Spirit, he is not a human priest. and if we are not baptized...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    That would be true, if Catholics did not add things to that to the means to eternal life. You know that is not what happens, why can’t you be honest?
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Discerning : The Water Cults

    So god requires us to do this before he saves us? What if we die before we are able?