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Yes to the first. No, Jesus is the first born to the 2nd. You know that.

For some reason, trinitarians do not realize how scripture goes against their doctrine. Anything that 'is the image of' or 'in the form of' something is NOT that thing, including God. Logic Definition Language Usage Mirrors reflect what is the image of whoever is in front of it. That does not...

Sorry but I do not believe you since this thread already provided such Scripture in the OP and you are not answering my basic question once the Scripture is provided. Are you seriously saying you never read in Scripture that Jesus was the first born of all creation? That you cannot research...

This is just another example of completely absurd reasoning. The historical narrative is not supposed to be evidentiary. For instance, the Jews who condemned him of blasphemy not only realized he was not God incarnate but not even the Messiah. So, that is definitive proof using your standard.

No response is what about it. Given that Jesus is the first born of all creation, it means he is not God for he is not the Father.

This is what you do. You do not concede anything but jump from one thing to another AS IF always being on the attacks makes your doctrine valid. Please stick to the verses in the OP. Thanks.

If I provide the Scripture that states Jesus is the 1st born of all creation, will you concede that he is not God? If not, then your reply is just a smoke screen, right?

No. I’m comparing one claim of divinity to an exclamation to mock how ridiculous your desperate rationalization is to support your doctrine. The only God is Jesus’ God, the one he said he was going to in John 20:17, the one Jesus said was the one true God in John 17.

I see it the same way. However, on the radio, they used the WWJD standard. One caller said the question is fear based. And as a Jesus follower, we should address that heart of the matter. We must pray for discernment in why the person is asking the question.

Lap 200. No response to the Scripture that says Jesus is the 1st born of all creation. Predictable.

Yes, we are partakers of the divine nature, along with Jesus. Does not make us God - or him.

Not a conversation if you just ignore that dualism is not in the provided texts.

Dualism. Scripture says over and over and over again he was a man. This is his one nature. And what makes the resurrection significant. It is not Jesus' divinity but the divinity of God whose Spirit was in him and us.

Begotten means made. This is why Scripture says Jesus is the 1st born of all creation.

Like we and God are one as Jesus tells us in John 17:11 No. On the same page. You read into Scripture what is not there.

Dualism opens the door to all kinds of contradictions, not just how many Gods there are but asserts it is possible to have dual natures. Simple question. Did Jesus die? Because God is eternal and cannot die.

Sentence structure. Every epistle has a verse like this Blessed is God, the Father of our Lord Jesus, the Anointed One! Because He has raised Jesus the Anointed from death, through His great mercy we have been reborn into a living hope 1 Peter 1:3 (VOICE) The sentence structure indicates God is...

There are over 10,000 verses that go against it. A singular pronoun does not refer to 3 beings. The 1C does not refer to 3 beings. The sh'ma does not refer to 3 beings. Jesus says his father is the only true God @ John 17:3. That's good enough for me.

Dualism. Numbers 23:19 says God is NOT man. Malachi 3:6 Says God will not change. Acts 17:31 He has fixed a day of accountability, when the whole world will be justly evaluated by a new, higher standard: not by a statue, but by a living man. God selected this man and made Him credible to all...

LOL. That is what the dualist trinitarians are saying exactly.