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No, you do, see above

One can not be saved in sin one can not be forgiven of sin apart fro. Justification one can not be justified apart from faith no one will ever come to faith unless they truly repent. you seem to have things backwards my friend

Can you explain?

I believe in this and other of these types of conversations Jesus was trying to get them to think. moses required that the children of Isreal confirm each command and and to follow every letter. Failure to do this brought about a curse (see also gal 3 where paul shows this) this person and...

One must wonder how abraham got saved, and moses and king david, since they were never baptized.

Nope I was saved when I was baptized by God the Holy Spirit into the death and burial of Christ, where my sins were washed away, then baptized into Christ himself and his body, your faith is in works my friend, repent and come to Christ and let him baptize you with the baptism of Christ, as...

Well let’s see john, he said he indeed baptized with water, but one comes after him he will baptized with the HS (also called HS baptism) Jesus, he asked if the disciples were able to be baptized with the same baptism he was being baptized with (no water) paul, spoke of the fact the jews...

no blood is applied at water baptism, but blood is applied when we are literally baptized into the death of Christ by God himself, What worries me is people who replace the baptism of God with baptism in water and think they are saved, the OT taught that without circumcision no one could make...

I hope your joking, he said it multiple times, most noticeably Eph 1-2 and titus 3

Nope Your example is flawed, it has you having the ability to hold the work, to climb up it, you do not have that ability. God has to come, take you i to His arms and carry you out. your trying to help God, STOP. You will fail, your in essence telling God sure, I need saved, send me the rope...

Yep just like he baptized us. With the spirit of God

Water baptism is an act of God? Since when?

Um no we appropriate the blood through faith and God himself baptized us into Christ where our sins are washed

And here in lies the problem If we could grab the rope and save ourselves this would be a good saying but we can’t grab the rope. God has to grab us and pull us. But only if we are willing he will not pull against our will

I do not think he would approve of either. Personally

So he would disapprove of this but approve of Biden’s total lack of any ethical guidelines?

It’s pride, it’s against human nature to believe you can be saved without any help from yourself, it’s called pride

@Josho if you have any more questions please ask. The conversation went out there was not expecting that

Ok your out there I will take a pass. But thank you.

Actually no I did not I spoke of Daniel 2’ when Christ returned to defeat the final genial empire, and Daniel 7 when he came and destroys rome (the second formation of it) and Romans 11 when Paul said when the time of the gentile has been completed (when Christ returns) all isreal will be...