For by grace we "have been" (past tense with ongoing present results) saved through faith.. (
Ephesians 2:8) Believers are saved now and have been saved from the PENALTY of sin (justification) are being saved from the POWER of sin (ongoing sanctification) and will be saved from the PRESENCE of sin (glorification)
first thanks for the reply, second, we're sealed until his returen to recieved our new bodies, then we're saved ETERNALLY. as we speak, we're kept,
yes, we're saved by faith, which is HOPE. scripture, Romans 8:24 "
For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope:
for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?" (BINGO, if you are already saved NOW, (eternal fife), why are you still hoping/by Faith for it?...... well).
Romans 8:25 "But if we hope for that we see not,
then do we with patience wait for it." so are you waiting? yea, I thought so, as all of us, dead or alive.
it's by FAITH that we're saved? and what is Faith? answer, Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things
hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen." just as the apostle stated above... "Faith is the substance of things ________ For", there it is, as said it you already have it why hope for it. yes, one is saved right now by FAITH, by guarantee, (which is solid), but RIGHT NOW you're not living eternally, NOT NOW. if you want evidence, just keep on living for a while, and if the Lord Jesus haven't returned yet, see what will happen to you. ... (yes) in the ground. but, that's why there is a resurrection. if all who died went stright to heaven and recieved their new bodies... why a need to resurrecti? answer, because they are waiting just like all of us.
see mailmandan, you're saved by FAITH, in that we all have that guarantee of SALVATION, because we all have the same assurance of that salvation, THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Joel 2:32 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD
shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." (delieverance here is SALVATION)
Acts 2:21 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord
shall be saved."
Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord
shall be saved."
shall is a FUTURE TENSE desigination. that's where FATH comes in at until the Lord returns. BINGO.
REMEMBER, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.
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