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Is the problem with 'study' or 'present yourself to God'? What do you think the word 'approved' here means in 2 Timothy 2:15? I think it means to be approved, that you rightly divide the word of truth, and don't twist the Author's meaning leading others astray. So it has to do with correctly...

Is that what he meant?

Oh David, it doesn't seem you understood what A was saying about study without the SPIRIT. 2 Timothy 3:7 "always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

That is also true of 'late' church fathers. It is best to stop listening to the errors of man, and only to the Holy Spirit who is the only one who will lead us into all truth. When it comes to Scripture, be a Berean, and read everything in CONTEXT.

Holy Spirit. A ghost has no real power. The living Spirit does.

Interesting. I see 'sanctified' as meaning set apart unto God, and unlike the common teaching of most churches, I see that at the beginning of our walk, not the end. I see the 'process' they teach as sanctification as 'glorification' to the likeness of God. This is because Jesus took away our...

I was in my mid 30's to 40's when as I was reading, I stopped and said, "Jesus is God!" I even wrote it in my Bible at the verse. It shocked me.

Yes, I know, but I haven't found anywhere it has deviated from the truth of a translation, it has only made clearer passages that were hard to understand in the original. Like when I got to Romans 6, I had to stop and compare it to the NKJV and for the first time I understood a difficult passage...

I read the NKJV, but I found the Living Bible to be a great help. It was so clear, and when I came to something that I had never heard, I would compare it with the NKJV and find it absolutely compatible, only clearer than the NKJV. I know when I stopped listening to man, and read only the Bible...

I didn't know there was more than one. But I can't imagine that all Presbyterians would go along with this perversion.

I agree with you and I also can see one that does harmonize and amplify the Word of God with no contradictions.

Yep, that is why I attend church but don't belong to a particular denomination.

I agree. But the Presbyterians are in the same boat.

I don't believe that either. Baptism is in answer to a good conscience. You can't have a good conscience if you still have sin. It is the blood of Jesus that cleanses us from sin. He gives us the Holy Spirit to keep power over sin (which I know we may disagree with), THEN that is when we can...

You say that, yet, again, don't give me the Scriptures to ponder for myself... BTW, when your church decides what they will allow, will it have to do with homosexual bishops and ministers? Are you for gay bishops or against? We are against.

No, he just didn't agree with Calvin's errors. They were clear as day to Jacob Arminius also. :D

LOL No, Wesley reformed the Reformation. :D

I do. And I do not believe the Roman Church put all inspired writings into the canon, even though it wasn't their call to make.

Yes, we are too, but are waiting for the world-wide meeting in April. You too? But we align to the original doctrines of Wesley, who was against Calvin. There are many "Baptists." Are you Southern Baptist which is Calvinistic? (I think?) Are you OSAS? Methodists aren't. And mine is Spirit-filled...

I know your heart is as a Baptist, but you go to a United Methodist Church (as I do too), but as far as baptism, do you agree with Baptist's later baptism, or UMC infant baptism. Personally, I haven't witnessed infant baptism at the UMC I go to, but did in another UMC church.