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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Me too! Glad we agree on that. What wrath is 1 Thessalonians 5:9 referring to? This wrath that Paul referenced shortly before that, right? 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    Is Mark 13:2 in your Bible? Mark 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. By actually looking at Mark 13 and Luke 21 instead of only Matthew 24, we can get further insight into what...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    So, what about my questions then? I'm asking if you were talking about saving faith when you said faith is a gift of God (I assume so, but just wanted confirmation). And I'm asking you what are "the doctrines of grace"? Are you referring to TULIP (Calvinism) or something else? Once you answer...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    This requires looking at several surrounding verses for context. Matthew 24:23 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    Yes, I know. Yes, He does. What does this have to do with what I said in the post you responded to exactly?
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Do you think lying does anything to help your case? He, and people like me who agree with him, do not believe anyone has replaced Israel as you falsely claim. Instead, we believe that Gentile believers have been joined with Israelite believers as one body of Christ. Who is being replaced there...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    LOL. I am accepting the definition of the Greek words, as can be seen in John 17:15, and I am interpreting Revelation 3:10 accordingly. You, on the other hand, want to invent new definitions for words. You have to. Your doctrine can't be supported any other way.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Ha. How long have you known me? You know neither of us accept it when questions are answered with questions. Can you answer my questions first, please? :)
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Ah, yes. Your arrogance is never ending. How could anyone dare disagree with the Mighty PinSeeker! Didn't I tell you to get over yourself? You should be working on that by now. Are you for real or putting everyone on? I have given rebuttals for almost everything you have said, which has been a...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    It certainly means that Revelation 3:10 has nothing to do with a pre-trib rapture since it has to do with people being protected from something while on the earth rather than being taken off of the earth.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Agree completely. And any objective person following along can clearly see that as well.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    When the rapture occurs, what happens to those left behind? They are left alive to experience tribulation for 7 years or however long you think it is? That's not what Jesus said. Luke 17:30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Nothing, of course. They don't even try to present arguments by quoting scripture and showing how it exactly supports their claims. What reason can there be for that except that they know they can't?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    What are you talking about? Why will you not acknowledge that you are making up new definitions for words? Too proud to admit it? You can only make Revelation 3:10 fit your doctrine by making up definitions for the Greek words "tereo" and "ek" that don't exist. And you feel no shame for that? I...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Are you somehow not aware that it's possible to love someone's soul without liking their personality or their actions? I love everyone. We're told to even love our enemies. So, I do. Do I like how everyone behaves or like everyone's personality? No. And neither do you. I don't think so. You...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    What do you mean exactly? Are you talking about saving faith being given to people and that God chooses who will have saving faith and who won't? If so, I don't believe that. I believe in man's responsibility, which is taught repeatedly in scripture. I believe man has no excuse to not have faith...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Good grief, indeed. God forbid that I imply something from anything you say. There's your arrogance rearing its ugly head again. Thinking I'm the only one who has done that. Good grief. Get over yourself.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    I appreciate your kind words, but when it comes to how salvation works, he and I disagree very strongly (we've each made that more than clear). But, since I supposedly misrepresent his view all the time, maybe we actually agree. :D But, we do have similar eschatological beliefs. But, maybe that...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Why would I ask you if you think I'm a liar? Because you didn't believe me when I said you called something that I said "stupid". I wouldn't make that up. I don't, either. And I don't care to continue the discussion any longer because we got away from discussing scripture. Also, we each think...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    I showed you that He did only mention the buildings and you just ignore it. You understand that the Olivet Discourse is recorded in Mark 13 as well, right? Mark 13:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are...