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@Wrangler you have had over 12 hours to identify the 12 people you were alluding to. You are concealing that information from me and from your other readers. Why? That information would help us evaluate your claim.

I’m not a security expert but it doesn’t take a security expert to see how easy it would be for someone posing as a Christian and having the intention of killing you and / or other members of your concealed identity church to get past your gunmen stationed at each doorway without harming them...

No. You are.

Concealing the name of the church you attend from your audience isn’t something to be proud of. It‘s a powerful witness against you.

It’s true that there is a time for all of these things, isn’t it? There isn’t much peace in the world. History is filled with the curse of war and killing. Christianity is fractured and fragmented on the issue of Christians killing their enemies -> enemies of Christians being fellow...

According to @Wrangler and his concealed identity church … does it seem normal to you that someone would refuse to identify the name of the church they attend? ... Jesus, the Apostles, and all of the followers of Jesus were armed, ready to.“ History documents that they weren’t and didn’t. It...

I’ve acknowledged the thread title, multiple times. That’s not true. That’s not even logical. Yet another assertion that isn’t true. Of course I can cope with it. I’ve spent and am spending a great deal of time examining the history and your false narrative about it. I’m reading a book...

Thanks. The Christians / Christian churches were pacifist until the 4th century.

As we witnessed in this thread a couple of days ago, @Wrangler rejected my recommendation to read two excellent books on the martyrs. In this post I‘m making another book recommendation for him and for all of my readers:

The task set before @Wrangler isn’t as daunting as he may think it to be. The pacifism of the early Christians / Christian churches is primarily documented in the ten volumes covering the Ante Nicene period. (The red volumes.) He probably doesn’t know that because he hasn’t read them. (If he has...

Please provide the names of the 12 people whom you are referring to. All extant writings of the Early Church Fathers are available to read online at no cost. This is what they look like in my personal library.

The reasons for the Crusades were clearly identified in the OP and have been reiterated many times, by various persons, throughout the thread. The transition from the pacifism of the first three centuries of church history to Christian participation in the wars of the nations is important. The...

12 people? I’m talking about the Early Church Fathers, not 12 people. According to you and the concealed identity church you attend, they were all armed with swords and ready to kill. In fact they had no swords and spoke loud and clear against Christian participation in war.

“Read from a book everyday - not your tablet, not your phone. Hold a book and read from it. I’m convinced a score of modern problems could be resolved with this simple yet profound act.” - Judd Burton

“There is a living God. He has spoken in the Bible. He means what He says and will do all that He has promised.” - Hudson Taylor

A short history lesson. “The oftener we are mowed down by you, the more in number we grow, the blood of Christians is seed.” (Tertullian, Apology, Chapter 50) He’s right, you know. Whatever is going on with you, killing us won’t solve your problem. I’ve prayed for you regularly since the...

“Although the first three centuries of the Christian movement were marked by an almost universal stance of pacifism, one can trace a perceptible - albeit grudging - easing of the prohibition against Christian involvement in warfare. While the bishops and leaders certainly did not advocate active...