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You are a very strong man of God! It's nice to see three of my favorites on here!

There is not one thing I could/would add or subtract from what you've written. We are on the same page here, for sure Mark.

Hi Gary! It sure is alive and well, even flourishing :(

Always loved the simplicity of that verse.

By Grace through faith, I would say. And, are we not God's "co-workers? "For we are co-workers in God's service; you are God's field, God's building." 1 Corinthians 3:9

Ha, I just posted pretty much the same thing :)

What about Luke 7:50? "And he said unto the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace." Are we not saved by Grace through Faith? It just seems to me that the two work together.

I can see many, many who are simply indifferent to Him but, have yet to meet someone who "hates" God. Unless, you look at those as the same thing. Before I ever knew Him, I was always wondering about Him, what He is all about. As a kid, I just couldn't get over that He "always was"...ha! it's...

Oh, I know you guys really like Romans 9! And, I have gotten tneither "side" o know it pretty well, thanks to you all, lol. No, I do not see Limited Atonement in anything Paul say's. Nor do I see anything about Irresistible Grace. I name these two components because they, out of the 5...

May I ask where Paul taught Calvinism?

I don't know how I forgot to list THAT one! OF course, it most certainly does malign His Character...and yes, i have noticed your Luciferian references, pretty darned close if you ask me. Spot on!

I watched a pretty good movie last night, has a few really slow scenes but, it really picks up! I enjoyed it, it's titled "Like Arrows". It's about how a family finds God and realizes they must bring their children up in the Lord...was good. :)

?? Not following here Marks. What does suffering in this life have to do with said doctrine? I'm sure I'm missing something here, do tend to that sometimes :oops:

To me, personally speaking, the "importance level of this doctrine" is that is can and does strip many of hope! Not to mention that, even IF they raised their child up "in the way they should go", it would matter not as, the decision has already been made for that child. IF that child is one...

Amen! My thought's and prayers of and to God, and the things of God are heavy laden everyday, and gladly so. :)

Yep, it's a back and forth...I have heard and read every argument out there concerning this doctrine of men...It is something simple made complicated, and only the "elite" club get to heaven. How do they know THEY themselves are saved??! They don't, not anymore than any other Christian. The...

Sure! I'll just fly in every Sunday and for midweek bible study, sure...no prob! Thank you for the invite! I just had an idea...people do not even have to be there in person as some who cannot attend, could Skype!!!!!!!!!!!!

I kind of thought it was just a miss-interp. We all do it...I even sometimes reply to the wrong post as well. It's not a thing...go get some sleep, lol! ♥

I know, does he not realize he has broken our hearts??! Does he not care about us anymore? :(

Yes Rollo, what Helen said. If you build it, they will come! :D