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thanks for proving I did, why can’t you refute me?

Thanks, you just proved my point

Oh so you did it give us the bible or the traditions by which we can be saved? make up your mind dude

Nope Mary did not give birth to Jehovah, Jesus, like melchizedech, no father no mother no begining or end, you have Jesus created, that’s pagan,

No Mary did not give birth to God if she did, Jesus was created

I never said otherwise try to learn how to understand

Your right it’s not the WORK of water baptism never saved anyone, anymore than any other work did (Eph 2, romans 4, titus 3) true faith works, God does not need proof. That’s why everyone he saves produces works

Catholics teach that all people get to heaven based on what their church did. Ie. If not for them no one would get to heaven not everyone buys your stuff

Jesus was God before he was born. Mary gave him his human flesh, not his divine spirit

Ie works Or earning grace titus 3: 5. Read it.

Oh, so the way to eternal life changed from faith to faith plus works? ok... acts 2: 38 does not say what you think, you can not study the Greek and come up with the same conclusion

Catholics do not either my friend

Actually I did I mentioned John John 3. No baptism (No water and spirit does not mean baptism, if it did Jesus would have said it) John 4 no baptism John 5 no baptism John 6 no baptism how about Eph 1-2. No baptism yet all those people were saved

1. Wrong she was not saved before she was born 2. Yes, she was saved, by her faith. The same way abraham was saved, because she believed God 3. In order to be a MOTHER of God, you have to be God yourself read roman and Greek mythology, they had mothers of Gods, my God was before abraham and...

He gives it, because we cannot do it UNTIL we are saved

Been there done that with you we are saved by grace, NOT by works of righteousness which we have done (titus 3) but by his mercy your holding God back by forcing him to wait until you earn his gift, which means it’s not a gift, water is not the means, GODs washing of regeneration is the...

I agree with one thing. No denominations in heaven. But heaven will have people who went to different denominations here. We are saved jews although they Jewish priests spoke against god not for him. There can be true believers anywhere. Some people can’t get out of religion it’s hard so they stay.

Mary, a human born in the flesh, sinner, called Christ her savior, Mother of GOD? :rolleyes:

um no. Water baptism is not the way to salvation spirit baptism is that’s why it is not mentioned in any of the other gospels namely John

Sadly this post is just as bad as the op having discussed with this person before I can understand somewhat the ops Frustration