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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Maybe if you could learn to be more clear then I would understand what you're saying? All this comes across as is that you both agree and disagree with what I said. Not sure how it can be both. Makes no sense. Moving on... Nope. Nowhere does Paul equate faith with "a work of man" the way you're...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Nope. I haven't avoided any of your arguments. I've addressed them all. Sounds good to me. The hole you have dug for yourself is so deep that I would call it a bottomless pit. They were already worshipers before that. You ignore that and don't take that into account at all. But, that's what...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Ugh. So, you are trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in the pre-trib rapture theory will have to go through the tribulation? Show me the scripture which says that someone's end times beliefs determine whether or not they will be caught up to meet the Lord when He comes. Silly me, I...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    The potential problem with teaching a pre-trib rapture, other than it being a false doctrine, is that it can lead people to think that they don't need to worry about going through persecution and tribulation and such because they think they will either die first or be taken away (raptured) from...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    David, that's a reasonable argument that you're making here, but did you somehow miss that I said "The only other interpretation that I think could be viable is that the people of the prince could be referring to the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. The King of the Jews. In a sense, the Jews destroyed the...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Uh huh. In a sense, I suppose, but they were never referred to as such in scripture. I'm not much into speculation. What are you getting at here? Where does it say that the 144,000 are associated with the second coming of Christ? Be specific. Don't just quote whatever verses you think show...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Only in someone's imagination. Not in scripture.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    So is WPM. Why are you acting as if he called them something else? As he said, in your view they are the lastfruits rather than the firstfruits. Why can't it be the same firstfruits that James wrote about? Ever hear of interpreting scripture with scripture? James 1:1 James, a servant of God...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    I agree. In case anyone thinks that God doesn't ever use the wicked for His purposes, they should read this: Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    The new covenant was established by the blood of Christ long ago already. Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    Just unbelievable. There would be nothing holy about a re-established old covenant. In no way, shape or form would a supposedly re-established old covenant be holy. Such a future covenant would never be called "the holy covenant". It would be a mockery of the new covenant established by the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    He didn't quote who or what he was responding to, so I'm not sure. I thought he was talking to you, but I guess not. Anyway, I do agree that Paul and John wrote about many of the same things. That's quite obvious, as I'm sure you would agree. I see some argue that "the last trumpet" that Paul...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    It is? It would be "very interesting" for a Calvinist to use that word, but not a non-Calvinist. Sure, there is a sense in which no one deserves salvation because it is by God's grace. As usual, you don't look at the big picture. There's more to it than that. Because God decided to offer...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Deny deny deny. That's all you do. This discussion needs to end soon because of that, but I will respond to your posts as I see fit and you can use your free will to choose to respond again or not. You either miss or ignore my points over and over again. My point was that Lydia was already a...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Don't tell me where I get my beliefs from! I don't get them from Jesuit Futurism! I don't believe in an individual future Antichrist as Jesuit Futurism does. You clearly are just skimming over what I'm saying and not paying close attention. I'm done with you on this topic since you clearly are...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    To me, this is all complete nonsense and not worth my time to respond to in detail. I told you that our views are so far apart that it makes it almost impossible to have a good discussion about it and now you have proven that to be true. It's clear to me that the beast is the beast (not...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    What is this? Are you trying to hide from the absurdity of your belief? Do you believe they stopped eating and drinking 6 days before the flood came or not? LOL. How convenient of you to come to that completely biased conclusion. LOL. No. I believe what is written and I also believe that what...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Yes, that is exactly how you are. You don't know when to quit. If this was a football game, you are behind 84-0 and still think you can win.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    So, you disagree with what Jesus said here then? John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    LOL! If he was consistent, then he would have to believe that. But, what he isn't acknowledging is that he is making comparisons between Noah's day and the day Jesus comes again that Jesus Himself didn't make. That's something that someone does when they know what Jesus actually said doesn't...