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Please be serious. Do you actually think there is any chance I could be implying something so ridiculous? Give me a break. Paul, writing well after Jesus ascended to heaven, wrote about the rapture as a future event. But, you somehow think I'm claiming it happened "Before Jesus even"? Come on...

In 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 Paul indicated that what would happen first after He descends from heaven is that the dead in Christ would be resurrected. At that point we will all be changed to have incorruptible bodies and we will all be caught up to meet Him in the air. This is what Paul taught...

Again, you did not answer my simple, straightforward questions. I'm simply asking you if you believe in the existence of an evil spirit being named Satan who is also known as the devil? Yes or no? Who or what do you think is "the Devil" that tempted Jesus in the wilderness?

Which one of us misrepresented the other's view multiple times? That would be you. If that's all you have to offer then there's no point in continuing this particular discussion.

Pre-tribs typically claim that the rapture is imminent. That is not a belief you share with other pre-tribs then?

No one said that anyone but Christians will be raptured. That is obvious. But, what many miss is that 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:9 is describing one event. First, Paul wrote about what will happen to believers during that event and then he wrote this: 1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the...

Daniel's people were the Israelites. It doesn't mention the church at all in Daniel 9:24. Not explicitly nor implicitly. So, you're saying the tribulation is in verse 26. Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince...

Jesus did not make this comparison to the days of Noah, so neither should you. We should only go by what He actually said. And what He indicated is that people would be "eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage" until His second coming just like they were until the flood came in...

I've never said that. That isn't what I believe. Do you think you are capable of having a discussion where you don't misrepresent what I believe? Am I asking too much? It seems like I am the only one who knows because it's you and you won't admit it. You couldn't misinterpret John 10 more if...

It's truly unbelievable. The dishonesty I see from them is just disgusting. Christians should know better than that. They try to say that they take scripture literally and we spiritualize it all despite the fact that our doctrine is based on clear, straightforward scripture that we use to help...

Yes, it is. I never said otherwise. But, where does that text indicate that it's a pre-trib rapture? I'm not saying it doesn't talk about the rapture, I'm saying it doesn't indicate that it's pre-trib.

LOL! You're not even trying. You are believing what you want to believe. That is very clear. You are making no effort here at all to research what the word "rapture" means. The term "rapture" comes from a Latin word meaning “a carrying off, a transport, or a snatching away.” It has nothing to...

Nothing but an assumption on your part. You have nothing concrete to support your doctrine. Your entire doctrine is based on assumptions you make about the most symbolic book in the entire Bible. That's not a solid foundation for a doctrine. We (Christians) are known as God's elect now! How...

Where is the rapture mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15? I assume you are referring to this: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead...

That is a ridiculous conclusion. You can't conclude that two passages can't be related just because they don't contain all of the same details. There are no contradictions that can be found between 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 and Matthew 24:29-31 (Mark 13:24-27). Using this kind of flawed logic, we...

LOL! I have license to interpret the parable as it was intended to be interpreted. I'm not changing anything. You say guests can only mean one thing. Imagine if someone said a bride can only refer to one person and not many since that is how things normally are? But, you want to insist on taking...

I didn't say otherwise. Where are you getting that from? I believe He was talking about what was going to happen in the near future from that time. The gospel was first going to be preached in Israel and then to the Gentiles nations. Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy...

It can imply that, sure. Paul may very well have assumed his readers would refer to Matthew 24:29-31 to know what he was talking about. Remain after what? The tribulation of those days that Jesus talked about. It's quite possible that is why he worded it that way. But, in that case the passage...

You acted as if 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 can be used as proof for pre-trib even though it says nothing about the tribulation there at all.

I have answered that multiple times. The elect in the New Testament era are those who are in the Church. We see that repeatedly in the New Testament. Very simple. There is no "Gentile Church". You have to resort to making things up to support your doctrine. No, we can't tell that from that...