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Psalm 124 is a reminder that, come what may, for the believer in the purposes of God, we have so much to be thankful for.

Excellent quote. People with a Fundamentalist mindset should really stop giving them a hard time and concentrate on the transforming inward and spiritual nature of the true faith.

Hi @Randy Kluth Don't you think that the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24 is a unique, future event not known hitherto in the history of the world?

Noted...

Hoping you can stay clear...or quit... as the case may be...

@Jay Ross So did you understand the explanation for multiple votes in the poll?

@Eternally Grateful Thanks for your poll vote.

Hi; Sir; wonderful quote from Philippians 1 there; i so often think of it. Good to have discussions in the Scriptures.

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I don't see any Biblical evidence of the church in the Old Testament; it was Israel, justified saints, a faithful remnant, etc., but the church as I see it began at Pentecost.

I really don't see the church in the Old Testament. Pentecost is where the church started, when the Spirit came to indwell; and the Rapture is where the church will be taken up, with the restraining influence of the Spirit in the world taken away.

We would probably differ as to the exact definition of the church.

@Eternally Grateful FYI... did you see the poll I recently started?

I see that the church will be raptured (John 14; 1 Thess. 4; 1 Corinthians 11.26), while there will be a remnant (Matthew 24, where the language strongly relates to an earthly people, Israel), whereas the church is a heavenly one (Ephesians 1).

I don't see that everything will end simultaneously for the three distinct peoples.

The fact that around the Jew, the Gentile and the church of God (1 Corinthians 10.32) there are different schemes in God's plans.

The Lord Jesus 'ever liveth to make intercession' (Hebrews 7.25) for His people; may the Lord uphold your mother and the family at this time.

Some of what you say I do indeed agree with, but we probably don't agree about dispensational distinctions.

Justified in Christ (Romans 5.1) we are seen as perfect in complete in Him, but we still have the principle of sin in us, against which we are in daily conflict as we seek by His grace to serve the Saviour until His return.

So you do distinguish between the Jew and the Gentile? Do you also distinguish between those groups and the church of God (1 Corinthians 10.32)? because the coming of the Lord Jesus for His church is what the Rapture is. Matthew 24, clearly in the context, is not about the church, but about a...