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Oh? Yet the Bible does So we still have no agreement Again, If you want to earn salvation, Feel free. I am not trying to stop you

1. It was predetermined, Not fated, Please leave the calvinist stuff out of our conversation. 2. It was predetermined based oh Gods will. What is Gods will? That HE who SEES and BELIEVES in the son will have eternal life. and he WILL (not might) raise them on the last day (john 6) 3. Again...

Yes, you have a theory Your theory does not fit with what the bible says. I will stick to what the bible says if Jesus tells me to search for food which endures forever. which I can take, and in doing so I will not die. That I can eat and drink this food and never hunger or thirst. That if I...

Same could be said for you

Another one who did not read the three possible definitions of eternal Please go read them and come back to me.. Eternal does not mean we have to have a beginning.

If you think this, then I can not agree with you. Because again, it is a gift. A promise. If God says you HAVE eternal life. Yet in reality, you may still die, Then you do not have eternal life. You have what would be called conditional life. You continue to make it all about you. (you need...

First We are saved BECAUSE of redemption. If we are not redeemed we are not saved. so in essence they are interelated. ie, if we are redeemed we are saved, if we are not redeemed, we are still dead in our sins. Instead of worrying about what people thought about in the 3rd or 16th century...

Why would I care? I care about what the word of God says, Not Men. Tell me @BreadOfLife Why do you insist on following men not the Bible

No. You showed me what you THINK it means You have not resolved the issue that one is to be taken often, and is a physical meal. and promises nothing the other promises And the other is a spiritual food. Which endures to eternal life. Which gives the one who eats all Jesus promised Until you...

Agree it is not just a symbol But if the eucharist Gave it, Then the one who eats, as jesus said in john 6 will never die. and have eternal life

If it can be stopped. IT IS NOT ETERNAL If it can be stopped IT IS CONDITIONAL WHy can people not see this. ps. Yes it is a thing.. It is called a gift. A gift is a thing "the wage of sin is death, the gift of God is eternal life in Jesu"

I have 2.. I try not to ignore. it is a last resort

so basically your in limbo. You have no idea if your saved or not. At best you can just guess. If your alright with that. I guess my best to you But the bible says we can KNOW. I chose to KNOW

And if you listen to him, I bet he believes the me thing

Sounds like you obeyed the gospel. So you were obedient to life.

so we can become worthy of eternal life? please explain how. and where it gives us these conditions in the word

so again, how do you know if you made it? Do you live your life in fear hoping you make it. or do you know

he does? He thinks obedience to Gods word in the gospel is not necessary? Marks did you say this?

God purchased us with a price.. To deny us as the word says is to deny himself

again let me know. I have a bunch more