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Soldiers kill children. The conscientious objector didn’t kill anyone. Neither a soldier who kills his enemy nor conscientious objectors who don’t is “a man in form but not substance.”

“There is no greater betrayal of our calling than putting words in God’s mouth.” - Haddon Robinson

I finished reading a book this evening about the Anabaptist Kingdom of Munster. (This was a branch of Anabaptism in the 16th century that endorsed killing their enemies; the so-called Melchiorites.) @JesusFan how familiar are you with the Mennonites (a pacifist branch of Anabaptism which began...

What did it look like in the earliest centuries of the church for those who obeyed Jesus’ command to put down the sword and to love their enemies? To those who took seriously Paul’s statement that ”we [followers of Jesus] do not use the weapons of the world (2 Corinthians 10:3)? For many, but...

Of course not. It doesn’t. Maybe it is. Many before me have been murdered. They gave up their lives rather than disobey the Messiah’s command and followed his example. Again, many of them weren’t murdered. Your trust is in worldly weapons. The Messiah’s trust, the apostles’ trust, the...

You must not take seriously Jesus’ command to Peter to put away the deadly weapon he said to obtain. Jesus isn’t opposed to self defense and neither are the apostles. Neither he nor they used the weapons of the world to defend themselves. Paul describes the armor the followers of Jesus are to...

Jesus, the apostles, the earliest followers of Jesus (until the 4th century) and a minority of Christians down through the centuries defended themselves without using the weapons of the world. I will obey the command to love my enemies even if God allows them to murder me and my family. That...

“You are not a follower of Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill.” That’s not Jesus and the apostles. That’s the devil. A person who obeys Jesus’ instruction / command concerning how to treat enemies is “a man in form but not in substance.” That’s the taunt of the devil, directed at Jesus...

Yes. We have many historical examples of Christians killing Christians that we can point to. Would you do it? Proposition: Jesus is pleased when his followers to kill one another. That strikes me as false. Doesn’t it you? Proposition: Jesus commands his followers to kill one another. That...

Jesus’ God and Father, Yahweh, commanded the Jews to go into the promised land. Had they obeyed Yahweh they wouldn’t have had to kill anyone. God would have driven them out before them. The followers of Jesus are commanded to love their enemies. Others posting in this thread have commented that...

God didn’t order the Crusades. Nevertheless, God can use people who don’t obey the Messiah’s teaching concerning the way to treat enemies to accomplish his purpose. I think that’s what happened with the Crusades.

The Messiah doesn’t instruct his followers to defend the nations they live in respectively. The nations are going to wage war on one another. The Messiah isn’t pleased with his followers killing one another. That aside, the question I posed concerned the Medal of Honor awardee - a pacifist -...