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I'm saying your beliefs aren't taught in scripture. I'm not denying the existence of the scriptures that you think support your beliefs. No, that is not what I was implying at all. I obviously disagree that the pre-trib dispensationalist belief system rightly divides God's Word. And I was...

Take it easy. I didn't say that you said that, I was saying it was something I could see you saying based on how you approach scripture. I will have to go back and find that post that you didn't respond to specifically at all first and then I'll let you know. In the meantime could you address...

Can you try actually addressing my points specifically instead of just responding with your own beliefs? We could easily just go back and forth telling each other what we believe without addressing what the other person is saying, but that's not how I prefer to have a discussion. Anyway, even...

I just have to say one last thing about this since one thing you're saying here is definitely not true. You're saying that I'm saying Elijah did come as if it's just me saying that? No, Jesus said that and I just agree with it. Matthew 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and...

Why would the sheep not represent the elect/chosen? They inherit "eternal life" (Matt 25:46) in "the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" (Matt 25:34). Is that not what the elect/chosen of God will inherit? I believe it is since I believe all who belong to Christ are His...

Agree. This doesn't look to me as though John the Baptist failed to fully accomplish everything that he, as the Elijah to come from the prophecy in Malachi, was supposed to do.

You are funny. Even though I said I was done talking about this topic (twice), you are ignoring that and still want to talk about it. I can only laugh. I was going to just ignore your post since I've already explained this at least twice. But, you obviously didn't understand my point since you...

Yes. What is your point as it relates to what I had said, which was about John the Baptist and not Jesus?

It didn't come across that way at all, but that isn't much better, anyway, since even a "general you" includes me. Hmmm.

I will address the rest of your post in a bit, but I just had to respond to this first. You lied to me. You said you wouldn't do this (use your "exact words" arguments) and you did it again. Why?

Right. That's the point I have made and I haven't gotten any response to that particular point yet. John the Baptist accomplished everything that the prophecy said Elijah was supposed to do, so why would anyone think that he (or Elijah himself) would have to come again to fulfill the prophecy...

I've already explained my understanding of this and it has nothing to do with believing it or not. I simply interpret it differently than you. Let's try to refrain from accusing each other of not believing what Jesus said. That does not line up with the kind of tone that you indicated that you...

I disagree. I believe he referenced an OT prophecy and explained its fulfillment. Can you refrain from these types of comments? You want to keep this friendly, right? Comments like this imply that you think I don't believe what He said. Of course I do. I believe everything He said. But, of...

So, tell me what you think it means then. Why would you not see the chosen as being the sheep when it's clear that the sheep are believers and the goats are not? Why would you see the gathering of the people who are divided into two groups as being entirely different people than the...

It was future tense as of the time the prophecy was given, not as of the time Jesus said it. That's what you're not getting. As I've already said, I believe what Jesus was saying there was, yes, you're right, it is true that the prophecy said that Elijah was coming first (before the coming of...

I already addressed all of this in post #151. Why are you acting as if I haven't? As I said before, Jesus was not giving a new prophecy about the future in Matthew 17:11, but rather was referencing the OT prophecy. So, Elijah was coming from the perspective of the time the prophecy was given...

Of course I don't need to do that, but I will do it for you out of respect for your preference. And so that you can see that you're wrong even in your favorite translation. I'm kidding.

Just as a reminder, you said this in response to how you interpret Matthew 24:31. That verse says nothing about gathering the people of Israel to the land they were promised, but that is how you interpret it. You're not going by the exact words there. It's talking about gathering "His elect...

I completely disagree, but it's not worth the time to talk about this issue any further. That is why I read both the KJV and NIV. But, I also look at other translations and use Hebrew and Greek resources as well to help determine the true meaning of the original text. I'm not seeing that as a...

What does this even mean? Obviously, I have my own beliefs and there are many others who have the same beliefs as I do. But, I view other beliefs as well. What I was saying is that I don't believe it's worth taking a lot of my time refuting something that only one person believes. What is the...