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Where you have passed over the Maccabeean revolt as no big deal, it was the first desecration of the temple altar, and WAS a big deal to God. Daniel 8 fulfillment is still under Greece, so I believe in the 6.3 year calculation of 2300 evenings and mornings - 24 hour period days as set forth in...

Wow, Scott, I never knew you didn't believe in the second coming of Christ. What would you call yourself? A Preterist?

Wow, I know what Hebrew looks like, but those look like someone took a shotgun to them. :)

Speaking of Daniel 8 and the 2300 day prophecy. If after the time for fulfillment has past without anything happening in Jerusalem, why wouldn't someone let go of the day is a year theory, and realize that the evenings and mornings was the key to the truth of it, and look at the shorter literal...

The one I like is when Mrs. White said that cancer was a virus. And decades later they found that to be true.

What kind of symbols are those. They don't look Greek or Hebrew, so what are they. How do you type with them. I suppose you would have to download that language, whatever it is, but then what.

It is only "false" to those raised with evolution. Everyone until Darwin believed they were 24 hour days. I don't play around with what God meant. God is not the author of confusion.

I was talking about us finding the end date of the fulfillment, not the Jews. I think you are right about the thirteenth month.

Good night all.

I agree that the calculations are based on 360 day years. But every few years they add a few to regulate the clock to the seasons.

But in this case it wasn't just the word "day;" there were specifics (evenings and mornings) making it literally 24 hour days as in Genesis 1.

Yeah, I've actually questioned one of the definitions. But what I actually think happened is the Latin translations were translated back to Greek, but used the wrong Greek word.

This is true, but never are there specifics attached to the word day, like evenings and mornings. Then it is what is written - literal. But did you also know that a day could also mean 1000 years? Look at Hosea 6:1-3. I believe that is the case in that prophecy. What do you think? I believe it...

Yes, that one. What happened when it was fulfilled that is verifiable.

@Phoneman777 You still haven't told me why you still believe it was 2300 prophetic years when nothing happened in Jerusalem regarding the sanctuary (that was not there) in 1844. Do you honestly believe the fulfillment would be invisible to everyone? No prophecy fulfillments are unverifiable.

Chapter 7 is about in the future. But chapter 8 is about their present sanctuary in Jerusalem before Jesus where there was an abomination, and so is chapter 9 about Jerusalem but (another) sanctuary after Jesus that Herod had built. Jesus was referring to chapter 9.

Yes. No! This is years later and he was studying the vision of Jeremiah of seventy years, not his own vision of the 2300 evenings and mornings. (Question: how else would God clarify that He meant a literal day, rather than a prophetic day inside a prophecy? He would use the law of first use...

He didn't say at the time of the end of what. Jesus used the same phrase for the end of Herod's temple. The 6.3 years was the end of the first abomination of desolation from 167 BC to 160 BC. Why in the world do you hold on to prophetic years when nothing happened? These prophecies are true...

He didn't come about chapter 8; that's all in your head. Besides 2300 YEARS came to nothing but a great disappointment. God is always on time.