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But you ony believe your church is that church because the MeN of your church told you that. This is reality, your listening to men.

Nope You can't earn your salvation If you could Christ died for nothing.

what does th ebible say? Do we listen to those christians? Do we listen to pastors? Do we listen to elders? Who do we listen to? ot do we take what they say, Confirm or deny it with scripture Then leave comforted in the fact we have tested what people said.

I don't believe you because you tell me you listen to your church, and have been arging with me how I should also listen to your church since day one I have been arguing you should listen to God. You come back that we are to listen to the church again, Who is the confused one?

Christianity is a mess because we have input MAN into the equation. Your own church through the years has not been consistent, and if you talk to different Catholics they all do not agree with everything, then of course you got the split Again you tell me you have listened to God, yet You...

I have said continually listen to no men wthout first testing with the scripture. Now you say it is confusing Yet I have been consistent since day one. Confusing? No men, equals no men how is that confusing?

you tell me you listen to your church and I must, now you tell me you listen to God Sorry I am not buying it how about this, You continue to try to earn your salvation I will continue to live out the salvation God has already given me. Hows that?

You should do what God demanded You take what any man says, You test it with scripture to make sure what that man says lines up with scripture. And them you make your own decision I have told you this numerous times now. But that seems to go over your head or you just can not hear.

stop with the nonsense Thats why no one can ever have any proper discussion with a catholic. you all play the same mind games and refuse to sit down and have an actual discussion. It is obvious you have no desire to discuss, You twist everything people say. and try to make it look like...

its not about me, Its about you I am secure in my faith. I know what god has shown me, and I have seen his work in my life and I know where I am going when I leave this earth, there is no doubt, there is no fear. there is assurance, there is faith based on the evidence in scripture and in the...

study history. Not just the history as proposed by your church

you better not listen to me or them You better listen to God If they are wrong. You will go to hell. they will not take your place same with me same with any man. The jews who put their faith in the elders of Israel and claimed to follow abraham and Moses. Will they go to heaven? (remember...

Your church? No. They have not followed God since the 3rd century

No Your right, in that you follow them (men) I follow God.

yet I just proved it with the passage in titus And notice how every time I give you a passage, and show you what it says, you completely ignore it. And never even talk about it or attempt to prove what I said in the passage is wrong Its on you bud. God said we are justified by faith, I...

says the one who prefers to build his doctrine on one passage in James which is taken out of context. While ignoring the rest of the passages which show otherwise. Your have been shown, and you refuse to acknowledge the verses which PROVE that justification is by faith alone. But our works...

to some people it is more important to hold to their belief and push a passage which they think proves their believe, then try to harmonize scripture, which would have to cause them to question their belief.

Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new...

yawn, This discussion is getting boring Your stuck on one verse. even though you have been shown multiple verses which show you otherwise. I will stick to those multiple verses. And interpret your verse the way it should be interpreted Good luck earning your way to heaven. I pray if you...

Yet he did in romans 4, He did in eph 2 , Where he stated plainly, We are saved FOR WORKS. not BY WORKS. and here you go, another one for you Titus 3: 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, Here it is clear. None one good work helped us to...