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Why did you quote this verse? Are you accusing me of witchcraft, sin and idolatry even though all I'm doing is disagreeing with YOU and not scripture? Are you equating your opinions with scripture and basically making yourself God? Is this verse saying we have been annihilated and replaced by...

Where did I claim that? Please do not make assumptions about what I believe. I am not a post-trib premil. I am an Amillennialist. Do you know what Amillennialists believe? We don't believe that we're taken to heaven after meeting Him in the air, but we also don't believe we're taken to the earth...

Why did you not address what I said? Afraid?

Not other than the point that you saying that He doesn't descend at the rapture is false. You could see the part of the passage that I bolded and underlined, right? Did I really need to spell out the point I was making when the part I highlighted clearly contradicts what you said? Never said...

Okay. I just started browsing through this thread, so I haven't read many of the posts yet.

Both will happen. Have you never actually read this? 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of...

You didn't read his post very carefully. When it talks about saints coming with Jesus it's talking about their spirits and souls which are currently with Him in heaven. That is what 1 Thess 4:14 is talking about. They will unite with their resurrected and changed bodies and meet Him "in the air"...

This is besides the point I was addressing and I have already addressed what you're saying here with you several times. What I was addressing was when you said 1 Thess 4:17 and 2 Thess 2:1 don't say anything about ANYONE being resurrected and I showed that they do. But, then I saw that your...

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God is true and you are not. You just read everything hyper-literally without even thinking about the context or thinking about whether how you are interpreting a given verse is contradicting any other scripture or not. Your flawed approach to interpreting this verse results in you having no...

This shows yet again your lack of attention to detail. Which is why you can't be taken seriously. LOL!!! This is a public forum, genius. Anyone can reply to any post they want. Every other person here knows that, so why don't you, Einstein Junior? You are the one who couldn't mind his own...

Are you afraid to address questions that you don't know how to answer? I asked you what is your understanding of this verse: Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Do you believe the meek will only inherit the earth for a temporary amount of time? If so, then what...

Okay. You said this in response to my question of whether 2 Thess 1:10 is referring to the same thing as 1 Thess 4:14-17 or not. Now, let's look at that verse again along with the verses that precede it. 2 Thessalonians 1:6 God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7 and...

Triple down on my rebellion? What in the world? What is wrong with you? Did you forget to take your meds today? Using the same hyper-literal approach to interpreting scripture as you use to interpret Isaiah 65:17, do you read the following verse and conclude that since scripture says that...

Okay, you are starting to annoy me at this point, so it's time to wrap this up. You're not making any sense to me at all at this point, but we've had a good discussion before this. Let's just leave it at that and agree to disagree. 1 John 3:1 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what...

Again, you talk as if I'm saying we currently have immortal bodies. That's not what I'm saying at all. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on things at this point because you are making my head spin. I say that in jest and I'm not upset or trying to be contentious. I just can't...

Why are you saying this to me? Have you come completely unglued at this point? Have you completely lost your mind? I said NOTHING about Bellarmine and never gave any indication that I had any interest whatsoever in discussing him or his quotes. What I said was "Why don't YOU start another...

LOL! Why don't YOU start another thread about all this nonsense? It has nothing to do with THIS thread. You are just a child.

You keep talking about anything except for the fact that many of your Catholic doctrines contradict scripture. You're clearly trying to divert attention away from that fact. This other stuff you want to keep talking about is meaningless. And, God forbid that you actually say anything relating...

No, he was saying "as to the times and epochs" of what he had been talking about, it was not of any of their concern. It wasn't his point to give them any kind of exact timing on when Christ would return to gather His own to Himself and destroy His enemies. Tell me, when do you believe the...