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Wrong we are saved by grace period why don’t you do everyone here a favor and stop excusing your sin your as much as saying your sin is ok, but these other people who sin are doomed.

Jesus came to earth because if he did not we would all end up in hell you should not try to add to the gospel

Niether is saying born again believers will be cast to outer darkness God does not make mistakes

You just made my point, thank you not everyone who claims to be believers are believers, and yes, many of these professed believers spit on the cross. Whether you think so or not is not the issue

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I will be just as ready, Be it I am “caught up” or not. One thing I wont do, is mock my brothers or sisters because they do not see things the way I do

Wow man, You are out there Hell is outer darkness Its called the second death, ALL who have not been born again will suffer this judgment. The truth has sunk in, It seems to me, you still think your worthy. That should scare you!

If you think you are justified by walking, Your basically spitting on the cross of Christ, Because he could have stayed in heaven, and we could have saved ourselves Grace is not a pass on obedience, do not put words in my mouth, Grace is based on the fact, we are UNABLE to be obedient enough to...

There are many In my church living walking children of God What does this have to do with something that has not yet happened?

This is why it’s difficult to discuss this topic I gave numerous passages. You did not even respond to them then continue to ask me to show what I have already shown if you can not be honest in this discussion I see no need to further go Down this rabbit trail if you want to Continue. Look...

That’s saying we are saved by our works of righteousness this just is not found in scripture James is refuting licentiousness. A belief only apart from repentance and true faith gospel.

Amen James did not contradict Paul (romans 4 eph 1 and 2)

Yet this does not say we are saved by faith plus works it just states a fact. If one CLAIMS to have faith yet does not even have 1 work. Can that type of DEAD faith save him? Well of course not. Mere belief in Christ with no faith never saved anyone. Even demons believe. What good is it...

We are saved from wrath, we are saved from the curse of the law. We are saved from an eternity in hell I know what I am understanding and talking about This thread is about HOW one is saved is i not? So why are you trying to insert works or good deeds into the equation? Did not paul say if...

Phariseeism is a belief that we are saved by our works. By How good or morally upright we are. Or by religious traditional works. It is alive and well today. Not saying you are teaching or promoting it, Was just saying what you said described that thinking.

I am confused This is a thread on salvation. (Justification) Why are we discussing sanctification?

Your trying to read into my words things I am not trying to express. The law says we owe God perfection. We do. Because that is what God requires. We cant give him what we owe him, thats why we use RELY on Grace. Ie, he does not expect it. Because he knows we can;t achieve it, thats why h came...

When I see the cross. I see the love of God which surpasses all understand. I still ow God perfection. I have yet to meet that requirement. Maybe you have? When I see the cross. I se how much he LOVED ME, so I focus on taking that love and LOVING OTHERS.

It is obvious you do not understand what I am saying, please go back reread and try again. Because what I am saying does not resemble anything you are saying here

This is false This is phariseeism. It says your works can be enough to cause God to forgive your sins. Like th pharisee. This thinking does not remember the basic aspect of the law. Only blood can cause redemption.