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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    You don't see God's wrath in the following passage? Luke 21:20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    I'm sorry, but I can't make sense of what you said here. Let's look at Matthew 24:1-3. Matthew 24:1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    If it was supposed to affect "all the world" then why did Jesus only say that people in Judea needed to flee to the mountains when seeing that it was at hand? Why didn't He say that people everywhere would need to flee at that point if would affect the entire world? Jesus very specifically told...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    Revelation 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    There is no 'Spiritual Only' second coming, resurrection of the dead, nor reign on earth

    Let me know when you decide to share more than just utter nonsense.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I've already told you before that when it says "the dead in Christ shall rise first", that has nothing to do with "the first resurrection". What Paul was saying there is that the dead in Christ will rise from the dead first before then being caught up to meet the Lord in the air with those who...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The gods of amil.

    I don't need to prove myself to you. Paul said "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" and I believe that can be true of all believers. Do you not believe that about yourself? I believe we are warned in scripture about what will happen if we fall away (John 15:1-6, Romans...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Judgement of Nations: Millennium Proof

    Don't be so ignorant. The word has several different definitions including "pagans", "heathen" and people in general. When it talks about condemning the "ethnos" to "everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels", it's talking about individual unbelievers. It's talking about those whose...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly. When Premils read Revelation 20:6 they need to consider at what point is it the case that the second death does not have power over someone? Not until a person is bodily resurrected? No. Certainly, once a believer dies and their soul goes to be with the Lord in heaven, the second death...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The first bodily resurrection unto bodily immortality was Jesus Christ's bodily resurrection. We don't have part in His resurrection bodily, we have part in it spiritually, as passages like Ephesians 2:4-6 and parts of Romans 6 allude to.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You're making things up here. Paul did not indicate that the first resurrection is in 2 parts, he indicated that Christ's resurrection itself was the first (the context is the first unto bodily immortality). So, the resurrection of the dead in Christ that will occur at His second coming would be...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your understanding of what it means to reign is flawed. John very specifically said that Jesus HAS MADE "us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father" (Revelation 1:5-6) and Peter said that we ARE "a royal priesthood" (1 Peter 2:9). So, scripture says we are reigning now whether...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Nonsense. No mortal can survive what is described in 2 Peter 3:10-12, which is what will happen when Jesus returns. Fire will come down on the entire earth. The only survivors will have been changed to have immortal bodies at that point. That's bad news for you.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where does Revelation 19 say anything about the saints returning with Christ to the earth? I know the souls of the dead in Christ will be with Him and their bodies will be changed and made immortal, but it doesn't say anything about them going to the earth. Also, please read the following which...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is pure nonsense. Do you expect to be taken seriously with this gibberish? I hope not. Someone can't be "in Jesus" if they don't even believe He is the Christ. What a joke. Please stop making things up to try to support your false doctrine. Just stick to what scripture teaches instead.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not at all. It is when people resort to UTTER NONSENSE like saying being "in Jesus" and being "in Christ" are different things that is a joke to me. And to many others as well. I would be surprised if anyone agrees with that nonsense.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why did you misquote me? Are you that desperate that you have to resort to purposely misquoting people? Here is what I actually said: "Where does it say anything about Jesus reigning on earth in Revelation 20? Is this all you have? A passage that does not even say anything about Him reigning on...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    No one reigns and rules with Christ today

    What you're saying contradicts what John wrote here, which was in past tense (it had already become a reality and was a reality when he was writing it): Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Did you even read my post? You quoted just one sentence from it and didn't address anything else I said. Why not? You say Peter only speaks of the end of this world, which you say is 1,000+ years after Christ's return. Then please explain why he said what he did in verses 11 and 12 here: 2...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    This is ridiculous. Is a king a king only while he is actively excercising His authority or is a king always a king regardless of what He is doing at any given time? Does Jesus not exercise any authority in your life and in the lives of other believers? Is it not up to Him whether to allow...