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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Wait a minute. I'm not sure if you're thinking this through carefully. Scripture teaches that death (and by implication, hell) will be swallowed up in victory at the last trumpet, which will sound when the dead in Christ are raised at Christ's return (1 Cor 15:22-23;50-54). You say this will...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, and He is spiritually in our hearts as well. Right, but His Church is part of His kingdom. Which is why scripture indicates that we are in His kingdom now. Colossians 1:12 and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are the one who said this: "Uh He who WAS Here and Human Eyes could See?…called the Son of Man….and WHO shall every Eye See When He Returns? Uh the Son of Man". Uh...how can you not see how childish this was? Saying "Uh.." multiple times was childish for one thing. And acting like I...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    You are lying. This is what you said to WPM: Timtofly said: "You seem to think ill of God and His redemptive work on the Cross.". How can that be taken out of context? It's pretty straightforward. Why don't you just apologize for this insult instead of acting like I somehow took that very...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where do I start? There are so many. I'll just start with one. You believe that Jesus doesn't reign in His kingdom until after He returns because of your understanding of the chronology of Revelation 19 and 20. Scripture, however, teaches that He has been reigning since His resurrection (see...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Did you read my question? What you said here doesn't answer it in any way, shape or form. So, I will ask it again. What do you believe is the reason that we would meet Him in the air if we supposedly just come right back down to the earth afterwards? How does that make any sense? No, the...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    Because they didn't repent after being given many opportunities to do so while they had the chance. Why do you think scripture gives the impression that reaching the lost is so urgent? Why does it talk about today (now) being the day of salvation if it doesn't really matter when people are saved...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    If that had something to do with people being literally tortured in some way then I would actually agree with that. But, that isn't what I believe eternal torment means. Eternal separation from God is not ridiculous at all when you consider how many opportunities God gives people to repent. If...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    Right. That doctrine is not only false, but completely insane. Letting these monsters off the hook who did many evil things without ever repenting of them? I guess God is okay with that, according to Patrick1966? What unbelievable nonsense the universal salvation doctrine is. It's ridiculous.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    Would you not be frustrated if I asked you a question that doesn't even apply to what you told me you believe multiple times? I think you would be.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    Show me where it says otherwise. Your opinion without scriptural support for it means nothing to me.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    No More Death

    What does that have to do with Zechariah 14:16-21? Nothing as far as I can tell. Okay...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or perhaps a memory problem? I told you already more than once that my understanding of torment is not torture, but rather refers to being in mental torment because of regretting that they did not repent and believe when they had the chance (before...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    What, a verse which states that people are not given the opportunity to repent and be saved after they die? Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Once a person dies their fate is sealed. They will give an account of themselves on judgment day...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    No More Death

    @David in NJ What did you find to be funny about what I said here? Are you somehow not aware that celebrating the feast of tabernacles involved performing animal sacrifices? It's no wonder that you would try to laugh this off when your belief leads to the necessity for animal sacrifices being...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Don't act like a child the way you did in that post and then I won't accuse you of childishness. Very simple. Yes, but what you fail to understand is that the thousand years is figurative, similar to how the word "thousand" is used figuratively elsewhere in scripture such as the references to...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You clearly missed the point. You should want to interpret verses in the book of Revelation in such a way that it doesn't contradict other scripture. But, that does not appear to be of any concern to you.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What do you believe is the reason that we would meet Him in the air if we supposedly just come right back down to the earth afterwards? How does that make any sense? The same place where you are, regardless of where that is, because we will all be where the Lord is. The first place we will all...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    Of course I do. That is why He graciously offers eternal life to all people by way of the sacrifice of His Son. But, He requires them to repent and believe in order to be saved. That is clearly taught in scripture. Once someone dies, it's too late to do that. But, you deny that.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    You are revealing here that you do not know who God is. Part of what makes Him great is His holiness and His unwillingness to tolerate sin. He commands all people everywhere to repent of their sin (Acts 17:30) because He does not forgive sins if people do not acknowledge them and indicate that...