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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    When do you believe the Jews will be led away captive into all nations and for how long? When will Christ return in relation to that? The Jews were led away captive into all nations after 70 AD, so why would Jesus not have been referring to that? They've already been led away captive into all...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How does this answer his question? He asked "Surely we are now in “the times of the Gentiles”?". So, do you believe we are no in the times of the Gentiles or not? Yes or no. If not, then what is your understanding of the times of the Gentiles?
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    With your very general way of defining that term, I can say that you are a partial preterist as well since you also believe that there are Bible prophecies that have been fulfilled. Do you know that you've said this already at least 10 times before? Why do you just repeat yourself over and over...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, your answer to the question is yes or no? Why do you make this so hard? I guess your answer to the question is no? So, what is your understanding of Jerusalem being trampled on until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled then? When do you believe the times of the Gentiles starts, how long...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Congratulations on extending the scope of what defines a partial preterist beyond what anyone else does. Good job. Most people understand that partial preterists also believe that all or most of the Olivet Discourse has been fulfilled (which people like WPM and I don't) and that most of...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Probably not. I think he uses some kind of software that automatically responds with one of his 3 or 4 standard responses. I think if I told him 2 + 2 = 4 he would respond by saying, "No, 3 + 3 = 6!". He doesn't seem to understand the concept of specifically addressing people's arguments.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    I do not. Why would I believe that when Paul said this: Romans 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Exactly. His blathering means nothing without scriptural support. Notice how Premils never are able to make coherent arguments and they're just all over the place with their comments while they randomly piece together unrelated scriptures. That's very telling.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    With how you look at things (from a carnal, earthly, temporal perspective), of course you don't. Keeping things in context you say? Why do you ignore the fact that Jesus said His kingdom does not come with observation (Luke 17:20)? Did He say that only to turn around and teach that it will come...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How old is this man who already "was" at the time John wrote the book of Revelation? Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I will stop the personal attacks as soon as you stop lying. To try to claim that John wrote about the Olivet Discourse is a blatant lie. And you're also lying about specifically answering WPM's questions. I know you responded to his post, but not specifically in response to the questions he...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    It is wrong for you to falsely accuse others with that label when no one is saying that anyone has been replaced. No, you do. And I mean totally. 100%. Not all were blinded. That's a very important thing to understand. And they weren't blinded randomly. It's the ones who rejected Christ that...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    That is false. God made a covenant with Abraham and his seed. Who are Abraham's seed? Paul tells us. Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ....29 If...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    The Deliverer has already come to turn ungodliness from Jacob. Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    No kidding. Do you think I was trying to say otherwise as if those terms were used back then? Don't be ridiculous. I'm just talking about the concepts of amillennialism and premillennialism, of course. Why don't you look at what Jesus actually taught instead of basing your entire belief on Him...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Another robotic response from you. I can't take this anymore. If you ever decide that you want to actually have a back and forth discussion where you actually specifically address what is said to you, let me know. You did not specifically address his questions. Stop lying.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I didn't bring that up to discuss the identity of Babylon. Something is very wrong with your reading comprehension skills. I only brought up Mystery Babylon to show the folly of your reasoning behind the beast being a man. You said personal pronouns like he and him being applied to the beast...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    All great questions that he will surely either ignore completely or won't address specifically. Edit: Seeing his response, I was right.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are dishonest by acting as if John also wrote about the Olivet Discourse, which he clearly did not. That is as dishonest as it gets. LOL. Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, You are trying to tell me that when they "spake...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, I guess you believe that mystery Babylon is a human woman, too? Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.