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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Wait a minute here. Which "Jewish Scriptures" are you referring to? If you're talking about Old Testament scriptures, then of course I don't reject that! Are you kidding? But, if you're talking about some other "Jewish Scriptures", then what reason do I have to believe in them?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Did you forget who you were talking to here? I agree with everything he said in post #2491. My beliefs are very similar to his, which I would think you would already know. I believe you are the one who is misapplying the scriptures about the kingdom. It's as if you don't want to even acknowledge...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    For sure. They also like to add a thousand years to places where it clearly doesn't belong such as in passages like 2 Peter 3:10-13, 1 Corinthians 15:22-24 and John 5:28-29 instead of taking the passages literally as they are written. Many Premils like to say they interpret scripture as it is...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Hey, you're an Amil and are taking those passages literally. That's not supposed to happen, is it?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    If we have the gall to question their beliefs then it seems some of them think it means we're part of a devil worshiping cult. It's unreal.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    No one is saying it has to be symbolic in Rev 20 because it's used symbolically elsewhere. The fact that it is used symbolically elsewhere shows that it CAN be used symbolically, which some Premils deny. Of course. Who has said otherwise?
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Oh, so the following is referring to a literal one thousand generations then? According to your logic, it must be. Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Him asking you a question means he doesn't believe the scriptures? You have to be kidding. That is complete nonsense.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not to mention: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Come on, Randy. You know that Amils believe that we will inherit the kingdom in its fullness in the future. To say that he is "unable or unwilling to distinguish them" is clearly not true and you know it. We Amils believe that scripture teaches that Jesus will deliver the kingdom, which up to...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It's incredible, isn't it? He does that often. He definitely does it blatantly. It's evil to do that. Does he think God isn't aware of his devious tactics? I will never understand someone going on a Christian forum and purposely lying and twisting other people's words the way he does.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Don't you think it's a good idea to look at how Jesus understood "ages"? To Him, there were only two. This temporal age that has been ongoing from the beginning of time and the eternal age to come. I think it's a good idea to try to look at things the way He did, don't you?
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You mean Jewish people like the Pharisees and scribes? How did that work out for them? You understand that the Jewish people were wrong about a lot of things, right? It never had any validity. We need to go by what is taught in scripture, not by what people like the Pharisees and scribes, who...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This sums it all up. It is not a good approach to interpreting scripture at all. Instead, we should interpret Revelation 20 in light of more clear, straightforward scripture, as Amils do. It's very ironic that we Amils get accused of spiritualizing everything, when the fact of the matter is that...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It's easy to make claims like this, but can you back them up with scripture? I don't believe you can. Can you tell me how you interpret this passage: Luke 20:34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Of course I do if you're talking about people. It's spelled out for us. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. It couldn't be any more clear. All whose names are not written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have no idea of what you were trying to say here. I can't make any sense of it. It has nothing to do with what I said. Can you try again? That is completely false. Do you have anything to offer besides false accusations? I'm not changing the definition of a word. I'm going by what the vast...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It's too bad that you didn't stick what what you were taught then because it's the truth. I notice that you didn't specifically address anything I said in my post. Why not? If you disagree with what I said, can you tell me why? Luke 20:34-36 indicates that those who are found to be worthy to...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The theological fallacy of a spiritual 'resurrection'

    That is not true. Not only is that not true of most here, but I don't believe it's true of ANYONE here. Please try to stick to stating things that are actually true from now on. Thanks for your cooperation.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    You don't need to be a jerk to me. I'm trying to have a discussion with you here. Can you talk to me like an adult? It seemed like you were saying He was cut off at the end of the 69th week. Again, no need to be a jerk here. So, you acknowledge that He is cut off after the 69th week. Okay. But...