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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, in verse 4 where it says "they lived and reigned with Christ..." that is translated from the Greek word "zao" (Strong's G2198). In verse 5 the Greek word translated as "live...again" is anazao (Strong's G326). The word "zao" is not a word used to describe a resurrection, but rather is used...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, I'm sure. I know we all like to think that we're being clear when we explain our views, but that isn't always the case. Part of the issue is just that your way of looking at all of this is very different than mine. So, it's hard to understand each other's views because of that. I think you...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I didn't say that I thought you believed otherwise. You must not be understanding me. What I'm asking you is do you believe Jesus returns at the end of the age referenced in Matthew 24:3? Yes or no? You indicated that age will end when the gospel has been preached throughout the world. Do you...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I thought you said you believe there wouldn't be any sin during the thousand years? Did I misunderstand you? That is what you seem to have implied in post #496.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And why would you think that literally everyone would heed that warning? I don't find that to be a reasonable conclusion. I don't even find a literal interpretation of Zechariah 14 to be reasonable, but I certainly don't think it makes sense to deny what verses 17-19 imply if it's meant to be...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And do you believe Jesus returns at that point? I would assume so. But, you indicated before that you didn't think His coming and the end of the age would occur at the same time, so I'm a bit confused here. Did you change your mind, did you misspeak earlier, or did I misunderstand what you said...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    He put an end to their significance. They were not expected anymore after His death. The tearing of the temple veil in two symbolized that. His shed blood established the new covenant based on His sacrifice and put an end to the old covenant that included animal sacrifices and offerings...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You seem to have misunderstood me. I'm not saying that Amils shouldn't have to back their view up with the other scriptures, I'm just saying that the reason why we don't interpret Revelation 20 the way you do is because of what we see taught in other scriptures. I know that, silly. I wasn't...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I was just looking for a yes or no answer. So, it looks like your answer to my question is yes, you do believe that Zechariah 14 has to do with a reign of Christ in Jerusalem. The reason I asked that question was not to get your interpretation of Zechariah 14 or debate with you about that...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Obviously, any time a Premil asks "why not" about things like this the Amil answer is going to be because that contradicts other scriptures. So, there's no need to ask an Amil a question like that. Just letting you know. What does "the veracity of narrative prophecy" mean?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Honestly, this was very hard to follow, so I'll need to ask a couple questions for clarification. When do you believe the end of the age occurs as referenced in Matthew 24:3 in relation to Christ's return? Do you believe that is the same end of the age referenced in passages like Matthew...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The salvation of the Gentiles hasn't happened yet? I can't imagine that's what you're saying, so I just have no idea what you're saying. Again, Paul related Isaiah 11:10 to the salvation of the Gentiles. Should we not accept that understanding of Isaiah 11 as Paul taught it?
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You weren't talking to me, but do you believe that Zechariah 14 has to do with "the reign of Christ in Jerusalem"? If so, then I can explain why that would mean there would be sin during that time.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, I fully understand all of that. You can take part in this particular debate as much as you want. Or not. Whatever. It's obviously up to you.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do you think I can just explain what I believe to you and why in just a minute or two? It takes time. I don't support my doctrine with just one or two verses, so it would take me a fair amount of time to explain to you why I disagree with your interpretation of Revelation 20. Also, I have...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why are you referencing Isaiah 11:6-10 in relation to a supposed future earthly millennial kingdom when Paul related Isaiah 11:10 to the salvation of the Gentiles during this age? Romans 15:8 For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jewsb]">[b] on behalf of God’s truth, so that...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No problem. It might be helpful to read through a bit more of the thread so you can see what has already been discussed if you have time to do that.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And after Satan's little season, I assume? Okay, thank you for answering that question. That leads me to another question (or questions). Since you believe that Christ's return happens 1000+ years before the end of the age then what do you make of the disciples question they asked Jesus in...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Meant what he said? What does that even mean. I believe he meant what he said, too, but I still disagree with your understanding of what he said. Why are you acting as if the book of Revelation should be read no differently than reading a news article? That's not something I can just answer...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, no, no! You keep misunderstanding me. I was not talking about rebuking him for believing in Premil, I was talking about rebuking him for judging others just because they don't agree with him. I would never say that someone is out of line and deserves to be rebuked just because they don't...