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My goodness, are you even trying to understand? Who is saying anything about an event described in scripture not happening? NO ONE. You keep wasting your time arguing with non-existent straw men. Pentecost was a spiritual event, was it not? You have been equating spiritualizing things with...

I'm not adding to the word of God and I don't appreciate that false accusation at all. I believe I was clear in what I was saying. That you have trouble with reading comprehension is not my fault. Let me try one more time to get you to understand the point. The same Greek word that starts...

And, of course, absolutely NO ONE is saying that. Do you think it makes you look good to lie like this? We all believe what it says, but we don't all agree on what it says. EVERYONE believes what it says.

I already did explain. You never understand the explanations you're given. That's not our fault. But, let me try again. Notice it first says "he laid hold of the dragon". Yes, the dragon obviously symbolically represents the devil, Satan, but what John actually saw was a dragon being...

So, how will the following be fulfilled literally: Revelation 17:3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and...

It's actually talking about a dragon being grabbed and put in chains and placed in the bottomless pit, not Satan himself. The dragon, of course, figuratively represents Satan. But, it's not really referring to Satan himself being cast into the bottomless pit. Just like when it talks about a...

So, now you are equating Amils with those who are part of false religions and cults. Real nice, buddy. I guess you've never read what Jesus said about judging others?

It actually describes a dragon being chained up in a prison. Satan cannot be literally chained up in a prison. So, the dragon being chained up in a prison is a figurative representation of the spiritual binding of Satan. There is no reason to look at it as if Satan can be literally chained up...

That just means he saw that vision after seeing the previous vision. That does not mean what he saw in that vision had to occur after what he had seen in the previous vision. If that's how it worked then we'd have to conclude that what he described in Revelation 12 followed what he described in...

What does that even mean? Do you think there are no prophecies about spiritual things? What about Joel 2:28-32, which began to be fulfilled on the day of Pentecost (see Acts 2:16-21). Yes, and sometimes He does it with symbolism and sometimes it's literal. Can an event not occur if it's...

What are you talking about? Do you even know? Ruling the dead in Sheol? Them being destroyed over and over again? What kind of ridiculous questions are these? Are you for real? Good grief, you're in your own world.

When taken in combination with the description of Christ smiting His enemies and treading the winepress of God's wrath, it's very clear that Revelation 19:15 is speaking of Christ destroying His enemies rather than ruling over them. It really couldn't possibly be more clear. And this lines up...

Last year I came back to that one for awhile after not posting there for several years, but it was glitchy and very slow at times, so it was painful. I stopped posting there for awhile again because of that and when I came back to it, it wasn't there.

Yes, I did say that. So? That doesn't make their binding meaningless. What they are not doing is what it says they will do when they are loosed, which is "slay the third part of men". So, that is what they are bound from doing, not bound from doing anything at all. I would say them being bound...

Are you referring to the Bible Forums site? If so, yeah, that site is not there anymore.

Isn't it your default to assume everything is literal unless it is spelled out to you to be otherwise? I didn't say otherwise. You misunderstood me once again. I'm saying it contains a lot of symbolism, but I'm not saying it's literally all symbolic. I don't even know what that means and that...

This is complete, utter nonsense that no one else in the world would ever agree with. Not much more I can say about it.

Jeff! Welcome to the forum, my friend. I agree. Premils don't understand that Satan's binding is referenced in more than just Revelation 20, so that's a major reason why they don't understand what he is actually bound from doing.

According to scripture, the last days had already begun on the day of Pentecost long ago and they lead up to the day Christ returns. So, why are you not keeping that in mind when interpreting this passage from Isaiah 2? Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it...

I am not saying that being bound means nothing! I don't appreciate the way you're misrepresenting my beliefs here. In the case of those angels they are only bound from doing what that passage describes them as doing when they are loosed. There's no reason to think they are bound from doing...