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Did God speak AS Jesus or did God speak THROUGH Jesus?... 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me,... 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye...

The Father was speaking through the son. Read John 14. Take it literally.

OK, I was just confirming it. You would not have said what Peter said. You have said something completely different to the 3000 at Pentecost per what you just described. Oh boy.

Would you have said exactly what Peter said to the 300 per Acts 2:38 if you were Peter? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. If not, what would you have said?

Sinners don't mature out of sinning.

Not here in California. Our Democratic governor stayed all executions. There are people there that have killed as many as 25 people on death row skating. A lot of victims are hurting. The night stalker and the meth head serial killer of Linden etc are enjoying their stay in San Quentin, thanks...

If I may, the murderer is under the Law of the OT, the saint is not. The murderer must pay to the uttermost farthing.

I would have been a skeptical unbeliever too, if it had not been for the Holy Ghost intervention in my life in 1979.

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Yes, I realize it can be a nightmare to have to part ways with relatives that threaten to disown us over our beliefs. But sometimes you have to do it. Abraham did it and so can we.

That is the power of tradition.

Does anybody on this forum doubt that the law is still in effect after reading this verse? 1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Look, I am bringing this up because Jesus had a reason to tell people to self amputate. The people he was talking to thought that they could save them selves by the law of the Old Testament. He gave them deeper instructions to obey their law. That is why we saints today are not under the law...

He commanded you to self amputate your offending parts. Do you know Jesus? Why haven't you plucked your eye out for lusting? Right, because his commandments are specifically spoken to make you fail and cry out for Grace instead. That is why the Law was made. That is why sacrifices were...

Jesus was joking? Fact is, Jesus was making the 10 commandments impossible to follow. He took the cards off the table that mankind was playing as an alternative to being Spirit filled and led.

Great post. Now you are going to learn about what is called the law of the Spirit. And be glad for that because when Jesus was on earth he commanded people to self amputate offending parts of their body. Which all of us should obey if we say we obey Jesus Christ. Be thankful that the Holy...

Actually, any non-Spirit filled church resorts back to the 10 Commandments. Start with the Catholics. Observe the Baptist. Watch them preach the 10 Commandments like a house of fire.

Saints can still sin is correct. That is why the Saints are commanded exclusively to walk in the Spirit and be led of the spirit to keep from falling back under the law. We can backslide into sin and back into the law if we don’t watch it. If we fail in walking by the influence of the Spirit...

.....Except for the Spirit led saints. The 10 Commandments were and are given to sinners to teach them what is. This is why we don’t serve God in the oldness of the letter. The 10 commandments are the death ministry, delivering death to law breakers.... 6 Who also hath made us able ministers...

The sinning saint puts himself back under the Law to be judged by it. The only way to live free from the law and it's judgmental consequences is to walk in the Spirit. Then, and only then, are the saints free from the Law. If we are not walking in the Spirit, we are walking in the flesh to be...