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Just admitted to me that you doubt Thomas. Don't forget, Jesus NEVER rebuked Thomas for the first Apostolic decree that Jesus is God.

Barney....it does not say in Col 2:9 that Jesus was given a "divine nature". Can't you see what you are doing with your rebuttal of mass commentary regarding Col 2:9? It explicitly says every bit of the GODHEAD is embodied inside Jesus, not "God's nature" in Jesus. Think about what your...

Without signs and wonders, we cannot be God's church. It was founded on signs and wonders and still must be... And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: Fancy oratory is not enough to convert the soul.

That is not at all what Col 2:9 says.... 9 For in(INSIDE) him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead(INDWELLS EVERY BIT OF GOD) bodily(IN HIS BODY). You have equated Jesus to just having the Holy Ghost like us, Barney.

So you doubt Thomas that said "my Lord and my God"?

Oh boy!

A human son in the mind/will of God, which is reality to God. God even KNEW Jeremiah before his parents conceived him. 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Wow, God is...

He was indeed saying that Jesus was the only true God. You must prove in the passage that Thomas was thinking Jesus was not the true God. You cannot, so you must deny Thomas. You doubt Thomas, Barney....a Thomas doubter.

No, Col 2:9 is not self debunking. It says every bit of what God consists of dwells in the body of Jesus. Every verse around it advocates the same. It is you that are attempting to weaken the verse into "part of God...".

You just confirmed that the word of God that made everything in John 1:3 also made a sperm cell in verse 14. The begotten son of God came not only from God, but from Mary.(her egg cell). All this time you thought Jesus started life as a man, not microscopic?

Rather man was made God. God did not become man, but made a man. Jesus originated as a microscopic sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg to be made a man. That is how the son of David(son of man) etc was made. Can you think of any other way that Jesus was in the blood line of man?

So, you must then make every statement that Jesus or anyone else in the Bible that says "God sent His son" etc, into "God sent Himself". This means you do not agree with the words in the Bible. How do I know?...I used to do that too. Here is a random example of how you rethink verses... 14...

So, your N.T. is 14 books shorter than mine is? I have 27 books, and you only have 13? Which of the 13 books left in your library are on the chopping block next?

Same thing.

You are kidding, right?... 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. And no, he wasn't saying "oh my God"!

Nope, not adoptionism. Jesus was not adopted, but begotten. What I am saying is Jesus, the baby that eventually became a man, was murdered, then resurrected as the Mighty God/Everlasting Father per the Mighty God/Everlasting Father fully indwelling his new quickening spirit body. This is...

Your post is showing you are defensive now. You said for instance, that Jesus' new name was "Jesus", but I showed you some 16 chapters later in the same book he had a name that nobody knew but himself. You need to deal with that stuff, not just toss scripture darts at your debate opponents...

2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: Guys, was Paul saying God and Jesus were the same being here? Now, do you...

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