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  1. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    You may be right. However, there are those that call the lord Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Yashua, Messiah etc....anything but Jesus. Maybe I should make up names that are not similar to my wife of 36 years instead of saying her birth name? Yikes, not a good idea. Good thing God is not as picky as...
  2. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    God made all thing THROUGH the man Christ Jesus. Surely the 1st person did not make all things through the 2nd person? Surely the 2nd person was not the lone creator as Father watched. The lamb, Christ Jesus, was slain from the foundation of the world, right? Jesus was the firstborn of all...
  3. Truther

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    The people in Israel WILL turn to Jesus Christ when He returns to save them from complete annihilation. They will then be saved from the least to the greatest per Jer 31, right?
  4. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    Nobody has presented Phil 2 yet. Well?
  5. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    No offense ever. Debating is fun and only for seasoned thinkers. The OP suggests that I am indeed test driving this subject. I want folks to debunk me if it is incorrect, the I can go back to teach the God has a human nature again. Ick!
  6. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    That version is a mess. It is made by incarnation theory experts. The KJV is 400 years old and best for debates
  7. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    God witnessed the birth and death of His son before anything was made. God is smart and can do that. God transcends time. As a matter of fact, Adam was made in the image of the man Christ Jesus. Rom 5:14
  8. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    No, you changed it. The verse said the last Adam was MADE a quickening spirit.
  9. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    Did you folks know that Jesus was made flesh, then made a quickening spirit? If he incarnated, then it was a double incarnation...from Spirit to flesh to spirit.
  10. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    No, just getting to the truth. Most folks draw a blank stare when discussing the details of the so-called "incarnation", origin.
  11. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    If you say Jesus is not the biological son of God, then is he the "spiritual" son of God? If you say that Jesus is not the biological son of Mary, is he the "hypothetical" son of Mary?
  12. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    Then prove Jesus is not both the biological son of God and son of man.
  13. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    Must God be a human to create sperm?
  14. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    That which is conceived in her.... What is conception?
  15. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    Awesome. Easy, God made a sperm cell to fertilize Mary's egg. He was a biological product of God and man...son of God..son of man.
  16. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    1 Corinthians 8:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Both are involved. God made everything by and for His son.
  17. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    How is she the biological son of Mary without her egg involved? Was Jesus fibbing when he referred to himself as the son of man?
  18. Truther

    I doubt that God incarnated, but believe Jesus is God

    God made everything by His begotten son. Or, God made nothing?