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* That’s serious. Twelvendinitis is terminal. *

“If we do not abide in prayer, we will abide in temptation.” - John Owen

When I see and hear Jesus, I see and hear God @GeneZ. So do you. Jesus is God and man. That’s common ground for us. How to understand and explain it is what the early church struggled with. Eventually in that struggle, the Jewish dogma - my dogma - was destroyed.

I especially like your point about “certain Jews”. It’s a fair analogy that you’re making.

We could also say, stop assuming about Christians. Except for the very religious. They will glance through the Bible. Not read it. The statistics about Bible reading among Christians are appalling. That is why I started my thread on reading the Bible regularly. That is why I speak incessantly...

We could ask the same thing about Christians. But addressing your question - Jews who don’t believe Jesus - who is also a Jew - is the Messiah typically don’t read the New Testament. Observant Jews read the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament.

Saying that God is your Father does not make a person God, nor does it make a person equal with God. Every son (and daughter) of God should say that God is his (or her) Father. *** The unbelieving Jews also said that God is their Father. They weren’t thereby claiming that they were equal with...