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* If he’ll just go and lay down for a few minutes, he won’t have that problem any more. *

“Water baptism gets you wet. Nothing else.” Those are your words (post #42), not mine. I rebuked for it. “Nothing else” is atrocious. Philip demonstrated when water baptism is to occur. It is also the obedience of the faith. Yes. The Didache addressed those rare circumstances.

It wasn’t in the beginning. The primitive Christians were predominantly Jewish monotheists, not converts from paganism. Salvation is open to Jews and Gentiles. The same gospel that saves one is the same gospel that saves all. Pitting Paul against Jesus and the other apostles isn’t persuasive...

* Effective, but there’s got to be a better way. *

I don’t agree with that. If what you said is true then it is optional, unnecessary, do it or don’t do it because it doesn’t matter. Water baptism is a public profession of faith, as well as an act of obedience to the Messiah. Those who haven’t been baptized in water are rebelling against the...

What I’ve learned from the OP is that some believe there are two gospels, one for Jews and one for non-Jews. I learned that from the OP (and from others - before and after - who believe as he does), not from the Messiah and the apostles. I’m convinced that Jesus and the apostles all taught the...

Water baptism is required in order to be in the Messiah’s army. The order was issued by the supreme commander.

Some Jews believed in Jesus - they believed the gospel which they heard him preach and repented - and more heard him preaching through the witness, testimony and preaching of Peter on the day of Pentecost, and many have believed in him since. Then the same gospel was delivered to the gentiles...

I don’t understand Jesus‘ command to be a “do it every year if want to do it” order. When it is to be done is demonstrated by the apostels. Thank you, no. I was baptized after I understood the gospel that Jesus and the apostles preached, believed it, and repented.

The New Testament was written decades after the man Messiah Jesus ascended into heaven. The parable of the sower is applicable / relevant to all or only to Jews? My position is that it is applicable / relevant to all.

It is a commandment given by the Messiah. The apostles obeyed the Messiah. It isn’t optional. The apostles baptized in water those who believed the gospel. Acts 8:12 is a good example of this. The apostles baptized in water, even Jesus himself was baptized and had people baptized in water...

Concerning the parable of the sower @Behold: Is it applicable / relevant to all human beings or only to Jews?

Jesus commanded water baptism. All of the apostles baptized in water. They obeyed Jesus. The gospel that Paul preached isn’t unique. It is the same gospel that the Messiah and all of the other apostles preached. You’re setting Paul against Jesus and the other apostles. That’s not what I see...

Yes. Teaching Messiah is teaching everything connected with him, including his conception and birth, his teaching and preaching, his death, burial and resurrection, his ascension, and his future return to reign over the kingdom of God from his throne in Jerusalem.

It spoke it to the apostles, all of them Jewish monotheists. All of them were then sent to speak it, to teach it, to preach it, to the nations. @Doug and I have been able to agree that they all understood the death and resurrection of Jesus and that they all preached it everywhere they went...

I think that makes our respective positions clear to our readers. Your position -> they say different things. My position -> they say the same thing.

Thanks. So we are in agreement then that they understood the death and resurrection of Jesus. There is nothing preventing them from preaching it, and they did.

Jesus preached the gospel of God (Mark 1:14) which is the gospel of the kingdom of God (Mark 1:15). Paul also preached the gospel of God (Romans 1:1). I see it as the same gospel, and Paul himself tells us in Galatians that there is only one gospel. This is what I would teach a newbie.

Paul preached the gospel (good news) of the grace of God (Acts 20:24) which is preaching the kingdom (Acts 20:25). Jesus preached the gospel (good news) of the grace of God when he preached the gospel of the kingdom. I see no difference between “preaching the kingdom” and “preaching the gospel...

Jesus connected salvation with the reception of the seed / word / word of the kingdom that he spoke, in the parable of the sower.