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  1. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    I see. It wouldn’t alter the way I would handle it. Together or apart, I would worship both. The only one whom I would worship as God would be the Father. That’s an interesting thought. When we see and hear the Son, we see and hear the Father in him. If we were to ask the person we were...
  2. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    It isn’t the Trinity, and it isn’t the Son. Unless we are willing to say that the Holy Spirit is a third person who is God, that leaves only one person, the Father. Would the trinitarians dare say that it is the Holy Spirit? I don’t think so, even at this level of conversation. I’ve never had...
  3. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Yes. The Messiah’s God, Yahweh (the deity title, Adonai, is used here rather than the tetragrammaton, God’s personal name) is at the Messiah’s right hand, as well as at the right hand of others. The Messiah is backed by Yahweh. When the unbelieving Jews asked Jesus where he got his authority...
  4. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Psalm 110:1 ensures in my mind the correctness of your assertion.
  5. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    I would handle that circumstance as it was handled in 1 Chronicles 29:20; David being a type of the Son. David and the Father (Yahweh) were both worshipped, and no one confused David with Yahweh.
  6. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    It is true and monotheistic Jews didn’t kill the only begotten Son of ... Who is God? The pagan Romans killed Jesus, at the request amd insistence of unbelieving Jewish monotheists; not at the request of believing Jewish monotheists. Jesus the Jewish monotheist conversing with Jewish...
  7. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    If I could prove from the scriptures that echad is numerically 1, would the trinitarians become persuaded? While I wait for a trinitarian response, I’m reminded of Justin Martyr. Trinitarians are fond of claiming him as one of their own. This is the apologist who says in his writings that God...
  8. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Every passage of scripture is consistent with the Messiah’s Jewish monotheism.
  9. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Jewish monotheism is one in number. Trinitarianism isn’t one in number; it is one in essence. Number vs. essence. Isn’t that something we can all agree on? It should be.
  10. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, the Son of God, was, is, and will always be a Jewish monotheist. His God is only one person, the Father. That will never change or cease being true. We all know that a person whose God is only one person is a unitarian.
  11. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    The prophets, the Messiah, the apostles, the earliest Christians are all Jewish monotheists. Some Jewish monotheists saw, heard, understood, repented and were forgiven. The apostles are prime examples of this. Most Jewish monotheists saw but didn’t see, heard but didn’t hear, didn’t understand...
  12. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    I’m a primitive Christian now but there was a time when I was a trinitarian. I once offered the same understanding to others that you are now offering to me. When I see Father, Son and Spirit in close proximity I see a triad, not the Trinity.
  13. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Counting to ten in Hebrew. The print in the chart is small but readable. The numeral 1 is echad. Listen to her count to 10 in Hebrew. When she pronounces the numeral 1 she clearly says echad, not yachid. Yahweh alone, by himself, is the 1 true God in the Bible.
  14. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    I believe Jesus’ affirmation of the Shema shows us that he is a Jewish monotheist, that his elohim is singular, the one God, his Father. Echad can modify a collective noun. For example, one team. There is no plurality in “one”, the plurality is found in “team”. Echad is the numeral 1. It is...
  15. Matthias

    The happy thread

    * Escargot *
  16. Matthias

    The happy thread

  17. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    I said earlier that Jewish mysticism comes close to trinitarianism but falls short. Some trinitarians point to Jewish mysticism as support for their theology. Jews For Jesus is an example of a group that does it. No one should believe anything they aren’t persuaded is true. My case stands on...
  18. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Every Jewish schoolchild knows that echad is numerically one. When that is denied - and that is what trinitarianism does, you’ve just demonstrated it for our readers - then, and only then, can the Messiah’s own creedal belief be altered. The creed of Jesus, the creed of Judaism, my creed, is...
  19. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Some do it intentionally, some do it unintentionally. I extend grace to all. (But it still amazes me - irks me a little, too - when it happens.) Amen. Thank you. I wish you a good day as well.
  20. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    In Jewish monotheism it isn’t the word who became flesh. It is the word which was with Yahweh which became flesh. That occurred in time and place, as described in the birth narratives of Matthew 1 and Luke 1. The overshadowing of the Father’s spirit is causal. @Johann will tell you that I...