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I don’t think you said anything different in post #48 than what you’ve said in previous posts. Did I miss something new? If I have, please point it out to me. I will agree with you as much as I’m able to. No man can reasonably ask more of another than that.

Post #49 is my response to your post #48 in particular, and all of your posts in this thread, in general.

I do believe in Messiah’s preexistence. Are you sure that’s the only problem you have with me? I haven’t forgotten that you told me that you don’t believe what I believe is a salvation issue. But on the other hand, neither have I forgotten that you said to me that a person who believes what I...

* And always knew where to find them. *

* Everyone has a plan. The happy time before the unhappy time. *

Your post contains some truth. I’ve acknowledged as truthful those parts which I see clearly align with scripture.

“God begets God analogy.” - > bad analogy “God was murdered by Jewish monotheists.” -> bad theology Jesus of Nazareth, himself a Jewish monotheist, the Messiah, Son of God, was crucified by the pagan Romans (not by Jewish monotheists) and died. Three days later he was bodily resurrected back...

Full stop. God cannot be murdered. God cannot die. God has not died. God will never die. God did not die for you, nor for anyone else. His Son, a human person, did.

* But just like the lunatic fringe, I know it’s still out there.*

Thanks. *** @Johann, does this persuade you that “God begets God and then God is murdered by Jewish monotheists?”

No one has ever murdered God. No one will ever murder God. God cannot be murdered. God is inherently immortal. It’s astonishing to me that this needs to be said to Christians.

* I don’t want to tell Santa his business but, I can tell him from personal experience, GPS will sometimes let you down and take you to places you don’t want to be. My advice: stick with Rudolf. He’s never let you down yet, Santa. *

That’s right. Joseph is not Jesus’ biological father. God didn’t beget himself. God supernaturally beget Jesus, just as the birth narratives plainly inform us. Do you believe that Jewish monotheists murdered God?

How would you respond to Prager? If I had been at the table with he and the others, I would have brought up John the Baptist. Many Jews believed that he was a true prophet of God. ”And all the region of Judea was going out to him, and all the people of Jerusalem; and they were being baptized...

”God begets God and then God is murdered by Jewish monotheists.” That’s what you’ve presented to me. I reject that out of hand. @Johann wrote to me, just as he said in post #36, but in opposition to what you presented for my consideration. He should have written to you, not me. I agree with...