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Since I have it open, I’ll quote the long and short versions of the Epistle to the Smyrnians, Chapter 3, in this post. The short version. ”For I know that after His resurrection also He was still possessed of flesh, and I believe that He is so now. When, for instance, He came to those who were...

I don’t know what you’re doing. Whatever it is, it isn’t what I’m looking at.

Now I’m looking at Ignatius’ Epistle to the Smyrnaens. Same thing. A longer version and a shorter version.

I’m looking at The Ante Nicene Fathers, Volume 1. You should take a look at it too if you have access to it.

I’m looking at it right now in The Ante Nicene Fathers and there are major differences. The lengths / gaps are quite pronounced and obvious.

The long version and the short version don’t say the same thing. There are major differences between them. If they were identical there would be no long version and short version. There would just be the letter. Much has been added to the long version. Will you make the same assertion about...

* I checked the cat’s math. He’s right. *

* Uh Oh. *

In some paragraphs it is minor, in other paragraphs it is major. There are also a number of epistles of Ignatius that are identified as spurious contained in The Ante-Nicene Fathers. That in no way disparages Ignatius but it does point to forgeries by someone.

Church history documents the presence of many different forms of Christianity which existed prior to the establishment of orthodoxy in the fourth century. The post-biblical development of doctrine is very well known and documented. Roman Catholic scholars are particularly good in this area...

I haven’t compared this with the long and short version of the letter as it is translated / presented in The Ante-Nicene Fathers, edited by Roberts and Donaldson but here is a link to the long and short versions @RedFan...

Yes, of course. Do you own or have access to a copy of the Ante-Nicene Fathers? The side by side comparison of the long and short version of the Epistle to Polycarp shows / documents which words were not present in the short version, added by someone in the longer version.

See his letters in Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1, edited by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson. An excellent example is found in his Epistle to Polycarp. The short version and Long version is set side by side om pages 93 - 96.

By comparing and contrasting extant copies of his writings. *** What if I sent you a letter that, let’s say, contains 15 paragraphs. Now what if someone years later finds a copy of that very same letter that contains, let’s say, 25 paragraphs. They have in their hands a letter that I wrote...

Read his writings, compare the extant versions of what he wrote, and it‘s obvious that it is tampered with. Who tampered with it? I don’t know. Those aren’t examples of the Papacy. Those are examples that there was at Church at Rome. There was a long struggle before the Bishop of Rome finally...

Just one more assertion that you cannot be wrong when you are wrong. I agree. It’s simply called the Church or the Church of God in scripture. I’ve already dealt with the Protestants. Protestantism is nothing more a reformation movement. I re-read Ignatius last year. (I read and re-read...