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It's AND AND AND not OR OR OR eg :- To be saved today you must :- Believe who Christ is AND not OR Believe he died so your sins can be forgiven AND not OR That he rose from the dead 3 days later

But what if outwardly they worship the beast yet do not take the mark ?

Not sure if that was YES you would let them all die or NO you would take the mark so that they can be saved.

The verse writes AND not OR, you have to do all 3

Rev 14:11 ...who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. AGREED if verse wrote worship the beast OR his image OR whosoever receiveth the mark Worship the beast AND worship the image AND receive the mark = go to LOF The verse states AND not OR What if you...

Rev 20:4...and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads Rev 14:9 ...If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, ..... An interesting point has been raised . If a Christian takes...

Rev 20:4...and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads Rev 14:9 ...If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The seemingly apparent conclusion is that Christians who takes...

Now that is a good point ewq which I have bought up elsewhere yet met with derision. Rev 14:9 ......If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, Worship AND take mark - seems logical that the AND conditions MUST be met Start a thread on that...

Excellent analysis, rebuttal then correction EG

"Bruce" could be anyone, eg you or I. Put yourself in the place of Bruce. If you were 'Bruce' would you take the MOTB so as to save others ? Would you be prepared to act as Moses did in Exod 32:32, Num 11:11-15. .. Scenario :- The Rev 14:9 MOTB is now a reality. Bruce is a Saint in the eyes of...

Firstly, thank you for a polite response & question. Numbers 11:11-15, Exod 32:32 Moses offered to die to save others. """""".knowing what you know as a christian, will you take it?"""" If ALL your friends, family, people known to you were gathered then one by one executed until you took the...

Davy boy, so angry & childish, why not try to discuss differences politely ?

Scenario :- The Rev 14:9 MOTB is now a reality. Bruce is a Saint in the eyes of everyone that knows him Bruce and all his family, friends & associates are rounded up. Some are Saints, others are not. Until Bruce takes the Rev 14:9 MOTB he & everyone will witness one by one the execution of that...

You stated "I won't be here for the mark...I will have been raptured long before it was rolled out."" Is that not an indication of someone who has 'perfectly rightly divided' ?

List the perfect verses where Paul teaches that >>>any<<< believer saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 Gospel will be exposed to the Rev 14:9-11 MOTB.

I only follow the teachings of Christ through Paul. List the verses where Paul teaches 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 requires 'works', performance, no sinning etc

Perfect response Crow, good to see someone who rightly divides Scripture

Please list the verses where Paul teaches an Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed & saved believer who continues to believe & trust the 1 Cor 15:1-4 gospel becomes UNsaved by sinning

Today Crow is a 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed & saved believer Today Crow takes the Rev 14:9-11 MOTB. Does Crow got to the Rev 14:9-1 LOF ?

Continuing to trust & believe the 1 Cor 15:1-4 is the HOLD FIRMLY requirement to be Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed & saved. Are you adding PERFORMANCE to the 1 Cor 15:1-4 Gospel ? Let's see what PERFORMANCE levels Paul teaches are required to be Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed & saved ? Titus 3:5-7 Nope...