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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    To reiterate, all of the desolation in the verses that I cited refers to Jerusalem in 70 AD. The desolation of 70 AD was a result of the consummation of 70 AD. All fulfilled.
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Daniel 9:26 310 [e] wə·’a·ḥă·rê וְאַחֲרֵ֤י And after Conj‑w | Prep "Topical Lexicon Semantic Range and Overview אַחַר (’achar) functions adverbially, prepositionally, and conjunctively to express the idea of “after,” “behind,” and “following.”" One cannot follow behind something until its end...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    I concur that there will be a final fiery consummation. However, the consummation of Daniel 9:27 is the consummation of Jerusalem in 70 AD. It is not the final fiery consummation.
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    In the three passages below, there is a total of five references to "desolate" and its derivations. All of them refer unmistakably to the desolation of Jerusalem. There is a total of one reference to "consummation" (the single occurrence within the entirety of Scripture), and it is associated...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    It's about Messiah, who used the literal Romans (and Jews) as His literal people to literally deliver judgment and desolation upon literal Jerusalem and apostate Israel. It's not about your hyperspiritualization of that literal event. :laughing: Don't forget those literal Judaean Christians...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Wrong. Matthew 23:38 is a reference to the physical city of Jerusalem. Matthew 23:38 3624 [e] oikos οἶκος house N-NMS "the place where one has fixed his residence, one's settled abode, domicile: οἶκος ὑμῶν, of the city of Jerusalem, Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35." The physical city was...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    The consummation of Jerusalem occurred in 70 AD. There is no dispensationalized futurization applicable.
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Mostly agree. However, Daniel 9:27b continues the description in Daniel 9:26b, referring to the complete destruction (consummation) which befell Jerusalem in 70 AD via the abomination of desolation, the Roman armies (Luke 21:20) under the command and control of Messiah the Prince, the Divine...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Yes, it certainly includes "decided". But even more: 2852 [e] neḥ·taḵ נֶחְתַּ֥ךְ are determined V‑Nifal‑Perf‑3ms "1. (properly) to cut off, i.e. (figuratively) to decree" It recognizes that there is a single "cutoff", which does not allow for a cutoff after 69 weeks that orphans the 70th...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    What does "determined" mean in the OT Hebrew for Daniel 9:24?
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    It's fulfilled, just like the preceding 69, which makes all of them determined, as Daniel declared. Your 70th week is undetermined. Daniel's 70 weeks are determined, and Daniel's 70th week is determined. I believe Daniel.
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Yes, the 70 weeks are determined. All 70, including the 70th.
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    You've already forgotten Daniel's all-important word. Determined. Ezekiel does not disprove Determined. No one disproves Determined.
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    David's physical throne was destroyed millennia ago by Nebuchadnezzar. Jesus will not be sitting on a nonexistent throne. Matthew 6 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Present tense in Jesus' Own...
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    Daniel 2 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Matthew 12 28 But if I cast out...
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    Colossians 1 12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: Is that a kingdom?
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    the beast with seven heads and ten horns - the Roman Empire

    Obviously you don't know the difference between dispensationalist and dispensationalized. I've never labelled you a dispensationalist, because you have the sense to reject pretrib nonsense. But for some reason, you don't recognize and realize that your decapitated 70th week originates from the...
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    End time predictions

    No prob. :laughing: The forum allows responses to any post by any poster. So I responded to post 143, even though it was directed to you, because I had something relevant to it. @Douggg doesn't understand the word "determined."
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    End time predictions

    Bro, I was replying to post 143.
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    End time predictions

    Daniel wasn't upset. :laughing: Daniel 9 24 Seventy weeks are determined... Not decapitated. Not disembodied. Not detached. Determined.
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