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Fair enough. But everything rests on that story being true.

It's just a story. Then why did he get so upset in the story? It's interesting that he couldn't just forgive them then. People have been saying that for years. They live, they die, and it never happens. He even told his followers that he would return within their lifetimes. But he didn't...

Probably continue to debate the topic.

The condition of man in the garden was little different than that of a pet. They only knew themselves when they ate from the tree. Why is having knowledge such a threat to God? Because everyone dies and never comes back. Even Jesus hasn't come back. Perhaps. But if what you tell me is true...

Going to heaven to be with God isn't the goal? Then what is? I rejected Jesus because I don't believe he can save me from death. I think I've lived a fairly decent life, such that I wouldn't buckle while being judged. Although the thought of eternal punishment is obviously unpleasant.

I appreciate your candidness, Matthias. We need more of that these days. My next question is, why do so many believe it is true? I'm not sure what you're asking. Can you elaborate, please?

So this idea of being judged by God right after death isn't true?

Why can't the dead accept Jesus?

Well, you can always start your own religion. Show a little initiative.

Yes, I suppose it would.

To the same God Jesus prayed to. It's the only one I think may exist.

To God.

Something that's easier said than done. We are human, after all.

Apologies, Matthias. If I had seen the thread earlier, I would have asked. :) As for myself, I rarely pray. But when I do, it's usually for help.

Or he actually was God. I suppose it depends on who you ask.

A human can't do what he did. They certainly were. I guess I was a bit of an anomaly to them. A curious one to some, and an annoying one to others. Lol.

I do. But in this case, I don't think it would be possible to use logic and reason to make sense of the supernatural. Perhaps other people don't have to. I haven't met many Christians that want to look at the biblical claims about Jesus with a certain level of scrutiny. Rather, they approach it...

I don't know if I will ever be able to use logic and reason to determine if it's true. If I were to rely solely on my feelings, how I feel when I read or hear the words, I know it's true. But I'm afraid to fully commit to feelings because feelings can change. Granted, they haven't changed in 20...

I was educated in the public school system. My real first exposure to Christianity was when I was already in high school. This education is far removed from what the bible teaches. The scientific method is built on the study of evidence. I can't just shut that part of my brain off like a light...