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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    All Christians know that. Every pretribber agrees that salvation is through Jesus whether Jew or Greek. But If you need romans 11 erased, they you have a huge problem. In both Hosea and Ruth we see the 2 wives. Christian Jews. No jews enter unless through Jesus. Messianic Jews So I am sure I...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    No sir It is EXACTLY AS WRITTEN. BODILY AND VISIBLE RETURN. It does not need doctrinal massage and fitment.
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    It just means "dying" was introduced. They no longer were immortal BODILY ON EARTH. What is your interpretation.?
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    This partially true. When Jesus descended into paradise into the lower parts of the Earth, which is adjacent to Hades , He preached to those captives. The ones that he took to heaven had agreed with the gospel message. ....And they were seen, resurrected bodily ,in the streets of Jerusalem...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Pretribbers agree with that. If you think only postribs go to heaven, then all the Christians that have died and lead a life free of horrible tribulation , are all going to hell. There is a huge, huge, vast difference in the tribulation we suffer and the one that's coming. BTW, The AC kills all...
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    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    Not trying to be ugly but I do not know another way to say your view of God is perverted. 1) get born again. 2) then, as a spirit man, walk with God and learn of Him. 3) His presence is so awesome, it disarms the skeptic and mental investigators. 4) The correct view of God is "from heaven" Not...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yes Only a pretrib rapture fits. Just look at all the creativity of other positions to attempt to make something else fit.
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yes indeed. The pretrib rapture ( the bride of nature 25 gathered) Then Jacob's trouble ( appointed to Israel) Then the covenant Jewish wife gathered in Rev 14. Then the second coming on white horses as you pointed out.
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    Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'

    Never mind. Keep believing it was a ruse. Ignore the absurdity of what you are presenting. Yawn. Not a sliver of that matters.
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    Ten virgins

    It ties in but remotely. Jesus explained exactly what was meant. If you read the meaning first, then read vs 9 it makes perfect sense 9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. 10 He...
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    Ten virgins

    Then the "gold" in the 7 letters was wasted effort also. To take the position that in a parable you can change up components, and belligerently cast other components down, tells me you are offended at the parable. You can not craft some cunning meaning to the oil so you retreat and cast the...
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    Ten virgins

    Look You could care less about my testimony. I already told you I met Jesus similar to Paul. PAUL DID NOT SEE JESUS. You are probing my experience for one reason. To muddy it up with your salvation formulas.
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    Ten virgins

    In Every parable, if you cast down the components, and say they are meaningless, you basically destroy the parable. Oil represents the Holy Spirit.
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    Ten virgins

    I never said that or implied that I think that. I asked if Jesus was mistaken when He Described the foolish virgins as believers?
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    Ten virgins

    That is a fact. That was written to saved people.
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    Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'

    Here is your QUOTE : "Just as an aside,the so called fall out between President Trump and Elon Musk is a ruse." All my replies to you are to show you how that is impossible. You are saying, indrectly, that Trump planned to be labeled a pedophile, destroying his reputation. The fact that Elon...
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    Ten virgins

    It is in the parable. The wise said "no , lest we not have enough for ourselves" IOW , "Not at this time" IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE, because time had run out. The inference is, they could have, but at such a late hour, it could not happen. At the rapture, the silliness of carnal believers , get...
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    Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'

    What does that have to do with trump? You still saying Trumps plan was to be labeled a pedo? Disgrace himself? And that Elon is not on drugs?