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I don't think afterwards because the statement comes even while Saul/Sha'ul is still king. 1 Samuel 13:13-14 KJV 13 And Samuel said to Saul, Thou hast done foolishly: thou hast not kept the commandment of the LORD thy God, which he commanded thee: for now would the LORD have established thy...

Interesting and informative. Here we have koilia, (G2836), a cavity, which is also used in the birth narratives, it is typically used for the abdomen or stomach, or sometimes the womb is intended, (so they say), and it is figuratively used for the heart in the sense of the cavity containing...

You started with an assertion for which you offered not an ounce of evidence or proof. How many pages do you propose it will take for you to actually prove that Psalm 21:4 is not speaking of David and instead speaking of your version of "Christ"? PS: Let's say you could actually prove your...

In the beginning Elohim cuts down the heavens and the earth, and the earth becomes wasted and empty, and darkness upon the face of the deep, and Ruach Elohim is brooding over the face of the waters: [like a Dove] Matthew 3:16-17 16 And Ι̅Η haven been immersed went up straightway out of the...

It can be understood either way but remember that David is said to be a man after the Fathers' own heart, (repeated in Acts 13:22), so in that sense David had a particular mold, a particular genos, a pattern or type of which he was by his nature, and which was sought for by the Father: that mold...

Yes, either that, or those who rendered the original "Matthew" Hebrew text into Greek did so, (Jerome made the claim, and one other, but I cannot remember the other off hand). Another clue in these types of passages are words based on tikto, (G5088), which is more for plant-life generating or...

Incorrect: Christ or Christos, (Meshiah), is the Anointed One, a man. No, the eternal Son is indeed ever-always in the bosom of the Father, on the right hand side: How many times has this nomen sacrum been explained to you now...

Gen 1:11-12 LXX -- "according to its kind", (genos). Gen 1:21 LXX -- "according to their kinds", (genos). Gen 1:24 LXX -- "according to its kind", (genos), "according to their kinds" (genos). Gen 1:25 LXX -- "according to its kind" (genos, (3 times)). In this context genos means the original...

This one is in the Matthew narrative and is not called Jesus, rather, the nomen sacrum Iota-Eta, as previously explained. And he, being Emmanuel, the one and only one-of-a-kind Son who is ever in the bosom of the Father, has no beginning, no ending, and no genealogy. He is the same as...

Luke is the only one to mention the actual matrix and that is by way of a quote from the Torah. Luke 2:22-23 ASV 22 And when the days of their purification according to the law of Moses were fulfilled, they brought him up to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the law...

@Wick Stick, have you ever read the "Protoevangelium of James", (aka Yakob), text concerning the same subject matter? https://books.google.com/books?id=Cmbtm4ZZXF0C&lpg=PP1&pg=PA52#v=onepage&q&f=false Protoevangelium of James (aka Apocalypse-Revelation of Yakob) 11:2-3 2 And behold, an angel...

The passage you posted does not say what you say. There is no statement in John 1 saying that "Jesus is the Word", it's rather all presumption on the part of those who wish to force their preconceived doctrine into the text. Please prove your accusation with actual evidence. What Greek word...

That would likely take its own thread to fully explain: here is an extremely short answer. All flesh is not the same flesh, and Mosheh wrote the Torah on lambskins, regardless of what modern Judaism might say about that, (even every scroll or fragment discovered at Qumran ended up being either...

Oh, wait, there was something else I almost forgot. The term creed has been bandied about several times by different posters here lately, so I'll add one of mine, a small and short one, and not my words except for my repeating of what the following bold plain emphatic statements from the Meshiah...

Fair enough, I suppose, no reason for me to ramble on about it at this point anyway.

I simply called it as I see it, and it was probably less about what you think and more about what I see as typical of people who claim to be Trinitarians. The simple truth is that there is really only one main criterion in the modern mainstream: "Does the person confess 'Jesus is God' or not?"...

Thanks, now I understand this portion, and I agree that it is indeed what has happened, (at least in the west), but I do not agree with consigning people to outer darkness just because of a dispensationalist+futurist perspective.

I am not even really sure what this statement is supposed to mean. Who is The Church, (in upper case)? What does "in general (officially)" mean? I am being serious: one could actually take that as speaking of the RCC. Lastly, I find it quite difficult to believe that anyone claiming to be a...

The way you have read those posts is exactly the same way I read them even as they were first posted when we were on that page of the thread. Going back to make screenshots only confirmed that I, (and you), had read them for just what they say.

It's probably easier resolved using screenshots of those posts. .