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"How does Jesus' physical death save us from the penalty for sin which is spiritual death? I think the best answer I've read is that Jesus not only died for our sins, He conquered death and rose again. He holds the "keys of "death and hell" (Rev 1:18). 1 Corinthians 15:19-22 If in Christ we...

only if you misconstrue the plain meaning of the text The doctrine of perpetual virginity with the doctrine of immaculate conception make Mary into a goddess who has unique access to God like the ancient Greek religious hierarchy.

"Payback" has the element of revenge ... which is not God's justice. God has given humans free will to choose which door they walk through when they die. In that sense, yes, God's wrath is "consequence". Are you a universalist? God can descend to be with humans ... we cannot ascend into God's...

I think the easiest definition of "spiritual death" is eternal separation from God ... it is the antithesis of eternal life which God bestows on believers.

Not sure I got all that you wrote but the part I quoted is something that I can see. Non believers have a very hard time with the idea of a father punishing his son ... without grasping the concept Jesus expressed when He said "I and my Father are one".

Yes, God's justice is forgiveness through Jesus Christ, not because of our own merits. In Romans 1, Paul defines God's wrath as His response to sin - enforcing His law and penalty Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who...

I do not see justice and anger as the same thing ... perfect love requires perfect justice. Justice requires law and penalty. God's "wrath" can be understood as total rejection of sin. The OT gives us insight into God's nature ... and if we look at the book of Hebrews we see that the author...

Apart from expressing disdain for those with a different pov, what is the goal of ramping up anti Trump rhetoric? The only practical expression of antipathy for a person is at the ballot ... so I am wondering whether you're hoping anti Trump sentiment will mean Republicans lose their majority...

Criticism of Trump is legitimate ... but encouraging a Democrat majority in Congress is supporting evil policies far worse than Trump's flaws.

There is no Scriptural support for the perpetual virginity of Mary ... as you have stated, it would have made her a "bad wife". The false doctrines of 'immaculate conception' and 'perpetual virginity' have made Mary into a goddess.

A very good enumeration of the blessings bestowed on us by the atonement. How would you reply to the question that often comes up - how did Jesus' physical death pay the penalty for our sin which is spiritual death?

I agree, however, I would say that aspects of each model contributes something to a more complete understanding.

Yes. Penal substitution appears to be the most widely accepted explanation of the atonement among Evangelicals. "Penal Substitution Theory: This theory sees the atonement of Christ as being a vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice that satisfied the demands of God’s justice upon sin. With His...

Does that you mean you do not see Jesus' death as a sacrifice in payment for our sins? How then are we to understand the references to Jesus' blood? 1 Peter 1:18-19 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received...

I was prompted to pose the question in this thread by an article summarizing the 7 different explanations of the atonement. https://www.sdmorrison.org/7-theories-of-the-atonement-summarized/ It sounds to me that you would agree with the first of these explanations (theories) which is the...

Yes, I agree the visible image of Jesus dying on the cross is effective in helping us to accept His sacrifice for our sins so we can be forgiven. I would like to dig even further to ask why, or how, Jesus' death atoned for our sins.

How far can we go in explaining the atonement (reconciliation)? Romans 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement 2 Cor 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath...

When we see the restoration of Israel as a process that is gradually unfolding over time, both sides mesh together.

I agree that the quotes you posted are atrocious lies ... its just that I think if we recognize when people are deceived, we have a different approach than if they are making up lies themselves. A person who is deceived can become undeceived by hearing the truth if they are genuine .. a liar...

What I mean is that they (anti Trump posters in this forum) didn't make those lies up themselves, they are just repeating what some Trump hating source has spewed up ... and they probably believe it's true.