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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: "Last day" in this context is the day on which the seventh (last) trumpet is blown (see 2Thessalonians 2:7 and 2:17). This trumpet is blown on a particular day, and then the ensuing battle begins, and ends on that same day (Revelation 19:11:20). Hence we say "day of the Lord," referring to...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    The Bible says, "The lion will lie down with the lamb" during the millennium. However, the millennium climaxes with an attack on Jerusalem (Revelation 29:7-10). I would think that total regeneration occurs after the millennium (Revelation 21:10, basically a do-over ). The rapture is noted in...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    WPM noted: <resurrection on last day> IMO: The resurrection is certainly not the last day ever, since there are following days after the resurrection. Rather it is the last day of the seven trumpets, right before the bowl judgments.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    o The punishment for sin is death. (Romans 6:23). o. Adam sinned, we sinned, being "in Adam" genetically (1Cor 15:52). o. God Himself paid our penalty, by the suffering of His Son (Isaiah 53:11). o. This is the mystery of the Trinity (Matthew 28:19). o. Man himself, made in the image of God, is...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: The rapture is mentioned several places in the New Testament. Jesus will descend from heaven and catch up believers, so they may avoid the coming bowl judgments in the Middle east (1Thessalonians 4:16-18): "The Lord himself will descend from heaven...dead in Christ will rise first...then...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    WPM explained: <end of the world> IMO: "End of the world" is after the millennium (Revelation chapters 21, 22). "Jesus on a white cloud" is the rapture. A sickle reaps the grain at harvest time. Similarly in Rev 14:14 Jesus "reaps" believers to remove them from the coming bowl judgments. This...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish,  but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) The Romans beat Jesus so badly that he was hardly reckognizeable. Then they nailed his hands and feet to a cross and mocked him, "If you are...
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    Armageddon is an English rendering of Greek αρμαγεδδον, which itself is a rendering of Hebrew הר מגדו = Mountain of Megiddo, at the plain of Megiddo. The plain of Megiddo is along the Mediterranean Sea, great place to have a battle, been there, seen it. Jesus and his angels will descend there...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: The rapture is noted in: o. John 14:2-3 o. 1Corinthians 15:51-53, o. 1Thessalonisns 4:25-17 o. Revelation 11:22, 24:16 The rapture is seen in Revelation 14:14:16, as prophesied in 1Thessalonians 4:16-18. It occurs after the seventh scroll is read, declaring Jesus Lord of the earth. The...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: "Rapture" is an English word stemming from Latin rapere= "to seize." The apostle Paul was caught up, the two witnesses were caught up, all believers are caught up upon death. It's like taking a plane to another country. The earth we live on is a haven in a desolate universe. The universe...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The passage is about the King of Tyre, and especially about his advocate Satan/Lucifer.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Isaiah 14:12-31 is 1. woman is Israel 2. twelves stars are the 12 Jewish tribes 3. travail is persecution 4. child is the Messiah 5. red dragon is Satan, who was perfect, but fell 6. he was once on Mt. Zion in heaven/paradise 7. Satan corrupted himself, his choice 8. Satan supported King of...
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    IMO: o. The wicked are judged after the millennium (Revelation 20:11-15). o. The rapture is at the midpoint of the tribulation (Revelation 14:14-16). o "Earth" in the New Testament is Greek γη = "land." There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: "Rapture" is an English word stemming from Latin rapere = "to seize. Jesus was caught up, the two witnesses were caught up (Revelation 11:12), the Apostle Paul was caught up, every believer in history was caught up (Moses, Daniel, Zechariah, etc.) to heaven. Heaven is not in the sky, it...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    It cites "circle" and claims that equates to "sphere," which is incorrect geometry.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    The question is whether the early peoples knew the earth is spherical, and lMO the answer is no. The webpage you reference does not make a valid proof. There is no conceivable way people could have known.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Jesus riding on a colt was prophesied in Zechariah 9:9 (Kings would normally enter a city with a parade): "He is just and having salvation, ,*lowly,* and riding on an ass, a colt, a foal of an ass." (Zechariah 9:9).
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    IMO: "Prince of Tyre" (Ezekiel 28:1-12) is directed at the prince, and also directed at his lackey Satan, who had been on the Holy Mount Zion in heaven (28:13), but was cast down to earth.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    The rapture for believers is shown in Revelation 14:4-16 (Jesus descended to a cloud). The purpose is to remove believers from the judgements about to befall the land. It is explained in 1Thessalonians 4:16-17: "For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the...