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    A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH.

    Satan and his angels are already on earth. It was Satan speaking through the serpent to Eve (Genesis 3:4, Revelation 20:2). Satan had been thrown down from heaven (Ezekiel 28:14-17).
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    Pretrib fallacies

    New earth is after the millennium (Revelation chapters 21, 22).
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    IMO: "History" (noun) and "historical" (adjective) are of course different forms of same word. The book of Daniel is historical in the sense that Daniel did exist in times past. Such historical information can be handed down by oral tradition, writing, archaeology etc. But the further purpose...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    BTW, the ancients called the eight other planets "wandering stars" (Jude 1:13 ), having no idea they themselves were on a dark planet lit up by the sun.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: o. Every believer in the Middle East who survives the Middle-East scroll, trumpet, bowl judgments will remain on the earth when Jesus returns. o. Jesus will resurrect all deceased believers *everywhere* at his return. o At the end of the Millennial ("one thousand years") reign of Jesus...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    rebuilder 454 noted: <bible was written by the Holy Spirit> It was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit (2Peter 1:21). "Keep you from the hour of trial" (Revelation 3:10) refers to the coming judgments, which will be avoided by the rapture. <He created it> "Emptied Himself" (Philippians...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    "Trumpet of God does not mean God is blowing the trumpet, rather it means God commands that it be blown: Revelation 8:7 = first trump ("the first angel blew his trumpet") Revelation 11:15 = seventh/last trump
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Rebuilder454 noted: <The Bible was written by men (2Peter 1:21), not by Jesus.> They wrote "as they we carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2Peter 1:21). <Jesus was ignorant of it?> I have no idea what Jesus knew and did not know, other than what is indicated in the Bible.
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Jesus is God, no telling what he did and did not know during his incarnation, when he *emptied* himself (Philippians 2:7) In any case, I was referring specifically to the *people* at that time. There are people today who do not believe the earth is spherical.
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    o. I think the iron/clay are both ascribed to the sixth kingdom (Rome). o. I think there will be an "antichrist," coming-ruler in Jerusalem. o. I think that time will complete the sixth kingdom. o. I think the seventh kingdom is the millennial kingdom. o. After that, new heavens and new earth...
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    The Roman empire ruled the Middle East in times past. They killed the Messiah, which was part of God's plan (Isaiah 53:5). Jesus paid the penalty for believers (John 3:16).
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    Pretrib fallacies

    IMO: o. The millennium is not the eternal state, rather believers who die during the millennium go to heaven until the end of the millennium. After that come new heavens and earth (Revelation 21:1), do over, try to get it right this time.
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    What happened to the 10 toes in Daniel 2?

    Ten toes are 10 Middle-Eastern countries that will make an agreement with the beast to be at peace with Israel.
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    "Last" trump = "seventh" trump (last of the seven, Revelation 11:15).
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    "Earth" in the New Testament is Greek γη = "land." There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    Scott Downey noted: <none are waiting for him (Jesus)> They will, at the prescribed time (Revelation 16:16). I know where they will gather, been there, seen it, plain of Megiddo, great place to have a battle (Revelation 16:16). English: Armageddon Greek: Aρμαγεδων Ηebrew' הר מגדו...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    IMO: o. One future rapture of believers (Revelation 14:14-16). o. One future coming to earth of Jesus (Revelation 19:11-21). o. Then 1000-year reign of Jesus (Revelation 20:6). o Then new heavens and earth (Revelation 21:122:21). o Then no more tears (Revelation 7:17, 21:4).
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    <Do you agree with scripture> Surely, but there are differing interpretations, and everyone thinks he/she is right. IMO the ones slain at the return of Jesus, according to the text, are those waiting in opposition (Revelation 19:11-21).
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    IMO: o. The rapture occurs at the seventh trump, prior to the bowl judgements. o. Jesus returns with his mighty angels (John14:3, 2Thessalonians 1:7). o. "All slain" indicates the opposition at hand, not all in the world. o. Jesus reigns 1000 years (millennium, Revelation 20:4). o. Another...